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     One day playing at the Hollywood in Toledo, OH I witnessed one of the best players I have ever seen. He won the most amount of units in the shortest amount of time I have ever probably witnessed and he even bet and won ties (something I'm pretty confident none of us ever do). My question is on one hand he literally went all in on Banker, it was like he was almost 100% confident it was going to be banker (I circled the hand on the attached score card), do any of you have any idea how he was able to be so confident that this hand was going to be banker? Maybe there is a trigger I don't see or something. I know this isn't the typical NOR way to keep a score card, this happened before I became a member. Any suggestions or input is appreciated.

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Looking at this shoe the banker side has 9 bankers and the player side has 5 players. Almost a 2 to 1 advantage on the banker side

This shoe started out with (SS) Strong Side of multiples on banker and 3 singles and 1 multiple of 2IAR on player side which most members of this forum calls the player side the weak side of shoe currently.

One question that I would like to ask, do you remember if this player  after winning this ALL IN bet, did he bet on banker again??? If he did bet on banker again that would indicate to me that he is following the Strong Side of the shoe.

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Hey Baccarat Light-

THERE IS SIMPLY TO WAY TO SAY WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN GOING THRU HIS MIND...

 ( maybe he had a " baccarat curfew" , and had to be home by a certain time...)

( maybe he had lost so much already that day/week/month that he just said to himself "WTF?")

( maybe someone " double-dared" him to go ALL IN...)

( maybe he tossed a coin...)

etc, etc

Trillion offered up a good suggestion, but haven't heard back from you, so difficult to say what might have transpired, and why...

Nice he won, though, and hoping the size of his unit was proportionate to his bet...

( B.I.G.)

Welcome to the forum!

 

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On 13/02/2017 at 0:43 PM, Lightworker777 said:

Hi To All,

     One day playing at the Hollywood in Toledo, OH I witnessed one of the best players I have ever seen. He won the most amount of units in the shortest amount of time I have ever probably witnessed and he even bet and won ties (something I'm pretty confident none of us ever do). My question is on one hand he literally went all in on Banker, it was like he was almost 100% confident it was going to be banker (I circled the hand on the attached score card), do any of you have any idea how he was able to be so confident that this hand was going to be banker? Maybe there is a trigger I don't see or something. I know this isn't the typical NOR way to keep a score card, this happened before I became a member. Any suggestions or input is appreciated.

With Peace and Thanks,

All In Banker.jpg

he got magic power.  I saw a player who play almost every hand with 95% accuracy .  I  saw him one time only .  I still remember when he bet banker everyone follow him , when he bet player everyone follow him . those who follow him make good money.  I did follow his bet few time and make money, when he finish playing and walk out I try to talk to him and say thank you , he just smile at me and walk faster away from me.

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may be you have not meet one, . My uncle who bought a piece of land which everyone think it is a foolish decision to buy to buy a flooded and far deep away from main road. He take out his saving and borrow some money here and there, to buy that land , everyone said he made a very stupid decision. He said he dream few time that that place going to be develop and prosper , his in-sting leads him.  Now that piece of land worth 5 million dollar. He bought it with $200 000 dollar.

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On 2/13/2017 at 5:22 AM, trillion said:

Looking at this shoe the banker side has 9 bankers and the player side has 5 players. Almost a 2 to 1 advantage on the banker side

This shoe started out with (SS) Strong Side of multiples on banker and 3 singles and 1 multiple of 2IAR on player side which most members of this forum calls the player side the weak side of shoe currently.

One question that I would like to ask, do you remember if this player  after winning this ALL IN bet, did he bet on banker again??? If he did bet on banker again that would indicate to me that he is following the Strong Side of the shoe.

After winning the circled hand in which he went all in, he left. How do you get an almost 2 to 1 ratio with 9 bankers and 5 players? I counted 25 players and 29 bankers up till that hand? Please explain, I am confused.

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4 hours ago, Lightworker777 said:

After winning the circled hand in which he went all in, he left. How do you get an almost 2 to 1 ratio with 9 bankers and 5 players? I counted 25 players and 29 bankers up till that hand? Please explain, I am confused.

When I looked at the scorecard I looked at the top 2 lines thinking that was the start of the shoe which gave me a 9 bankers and 5 players. 

Now after you indicated that was the wrong place of the start of shoe, I would still consider the place where this player made an ALL IN BET to still be a Strong Side  bet, I know that I would be betting strong side at the beginning of 2nd column because at the end of the 1st column there is 4 bankers and 1 player making it a very Strong Side betting opportunity.

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4 hours ago, Lightworker777 said:

Thanks for responding. What is 221MM? Also can you further explain your attached sheet? What represents the actual outcome and what represents where you placed your bet?

http://forum.beatthecasino.com/index.php?/topic/6933-221-diary/

this is a link to help you understanding on 221  mm.

my e mail is

malayanlooi@yahoo.com

I will send more example and try to elaborate it, sorry that my English is not very good, this morning I am going to casino again to test it out with 4 more shoe and I will tell you my result. I am happy with 3 unites or 4 unites per shoe with consistency, and high win rate, i have learn not to take every hand but bet wisely. have profit target and stop lost limit.

 

bye  

 

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17 hours ago, trillion said:

When I looked at the scorecard I looked at the top 2 lines thinking that was the start of the shoe which gave me a 9 bankers and 5 players. 

Now after you indicated that was the wrong place of the start of shoe, I would still consider the place where this player made an ALL IN BET to still be a Strong Side  bet, I know that I would be betting strong side at the beginning of 2nd column because at the end of the 1st column there is 4 bankers and 1 player making it a very Strong Side betting opportunity.

The shoe starts bottom left, going from left to right, starting with the 2 players. I see how it was a strong side bet on Bank and how Bank was strong for that point in the shoe. Thanks for pointing that out to me. The only way I will be able to actually find out is if I ever run into him again and show him the shoe. Even with being a good strong side bet, I don't think it was a good idea to go all in unless he knows something else. Maybe he has some kind of formula that uses what the actual cards are. I heard things like when a hand wins with an unnatural 7 the other hand majority of time will win next play, and whenever there is an 8 and 9 natural, the other hand will win the next play majority of times. I have never recorded actual cards so I don't have enough data to analyze this to find out if it is true. Also, I will be away from the computer till sometime next week, so if you guys don't hear back from me you know why. Thanks for all your input.

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17 hours ago, William Looi said:

http://forum.beatthecasino.com/index.php?/topic/6933-221-diary/

this is a link to help you understanding on 221  mm.

my e mail is

malayanlooi@yahoo.com

I will send more example and try to elaborate it, sorry that my English is not very good, this morning I am going to casino again to test it out with 4 more shoe and I will tell you my result. I am happy with 3 unites or 4 unites per shoe with consistency, and high win rate, i have learn not to take every hand but bet wisely. have profit target and stop lost limit.

 

bye  

 

Thank you!

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4 hours ago, Lightworker777 said:

The shoe starts bottom left, going from left to right, starting with the 2 players. I see how it was a strong side bet on Bank and how Bank was strong for that point in the shoe. Thanks for pointing that out to me. The only way I will be able to actually find out is if I ever run into him again and show him the shoe. Even with being a good strong side bet, I don't think it was a good idea to go all in unless he knows something else. Maybe he has some kind of formula that uses what the actual cards are. I heard things like when a hand wins with an unnatural 7 the other hand majority of time will win next play, and whenever there is an 8 and 9 natural, the other hand will win the next play majority of times. I have never recorded actual cards so I don't have enough data to analyze this to find out if it is true. Also, I will be away from the computer till sometime next week, so if you guys don't hear back from me you know why. Thanks for all your input.

" Oops, this is the part I forgot to tell you..."

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On 2017/2/15 at 6:24 PM, William Looi said:

I have develop a new method to play baccarat , I have been using it and testing in casino for 20+ shoes with out any lose flat bet, win target is 4 unit stop lose is 3 unites.

I have attached a picture you may understand when you look and study carefully.

So far I have not met a losing shoe yet.

 

IMG_20170215_0001.pdf

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Hello William, can you give a brief explanation of your method ?

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“GOING ALL IN” means nothing, in so far as we can measure. Or even in so far as what the shoe was “ telling him to do”

     - Perhaps he is a very rich man, and this particular B bet was like you and me tossing a penny into a fountain, wishing for good luck

     - Perhaps he had won a lot of money previously that day, that week, that month, that whatever, and his ALL-IN bet was simply a fraction of same

     - Perhaps he was simply relying on the law-of-averages ( 50/50) , and planned to leave after that single bet, no matter win-or-lose

 

Agent 777, the point I wish to make is simple.

 

          - NEVER, EVER, PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET...UNLESS YOU OWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF CHICKEN-         COOPS.

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