Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 YES, Dr. E told me back in 2010....4 years ago.I did not "listen" properly then, and I hope YOU do not make the same mistake....as it will cost you A LOT OF MONEYI MEAN IT...A LOT OF MONEY.until now...I hope to give you the chance to get it all back... but, I would be doing you an in justice if I just gave you the answer..Because, just like me, you would in all likelihood squander your opportunity to make more money from playing Baccarat ,in your whole life, than you are realistically entitltled to...And THAT would be doing YOU an injustice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hi kachatz1Sorry to interrupt you in the middle of all your post, but just one quick question,Are you the guy that writes the speeches for Obama?I may not have written the law, I may not even have been involved in the discussions of ObamaCare ( they did not invite me to the summiit????) , but one thing is for certain.We are on one slippery slope. And it is all downhill from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I may not have written the law, I may not even have been involved in the discussions of ObamaCare ( they did not invite me to the summiit????) , but one thing is for certain.We are on one slippery slope. And it is all downhill from here.PSWorst thing we could do is get Dr. E .all upset about politix...we have a lot of compadres relying on him this weekend to be on his "A" game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnChamer Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hi Kevin, I'm not only impatient, I'm growing a beard!CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnChamer Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 PSWorst thing we could do is get Dr. E .all upset about politix...we have a lot of compadres relying on him this weekend to be on his "A" game.Ya Ellis doesn't care for Obamacare... LolCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 PSWorst thing we could do is get Dr. E .all upset about politix...we have a lot of compadres relying on him this weekend to be on his "A" game.I think you missed my point.I didn't ask about ObamacareLike Obama's speeches I've never heard so many words that said so little. Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnChamer Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think you missed my point.I didn't ask about ObamacareLike Obama's speeches I've never heard so many words that said so little.Most leaders are like that, not much to say but we listen to them all the. Same...Looking forward to the final chapter of "The Twist" CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 but, I would be doing you an in justice if I just gave you the answer..Because, just like me, you would in all likelihood squander your opportunity to make more money from playing Baccarat ,in your whole life, than you are realistically entitltled to...And THAT would be doing YOU an injustice....So, here you go.And Pull-eeeze (!) write this down, and put it somewhere you can refer back to it every time before you go to the casino...YES, we already know that 4D looks for the LEAST DISPARITIES ( P/B, O/R, OTBL/TBL, and OO/TT)And we know that NOR looks for the GREATEST DISPARITIES But YES, there is a "TWIST" to this, and I will explain it so you, too, can make a lot of money.( That is why you are on this forum, is it not?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Most leaders are like that, not much to say but we listen to them all the. Same...Looking forward to the final chapter of "The Twist" CCI wonder if it will come before the seminar. Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 So, here you go.And Pull-eeeze (!) write this down, and put it somewhere you can refer back to it every time before you go to the casino...YES, we already know that 4D looks for the LEAST DISPARITIES ( P/B, O/R, OTBL/TBL, and OO/TT)And we know that NOR looks for the GREATEST DISPARITIES But YES, there is a "TWIST" to this, and I will explain it so you, too, can make a lot of money.( That is why you are on this forum, is it not?)What I am about to tell you may make NO SENSE, unless you go back to the answers Ellis provided me back in 2010.4 years...and we have left a lot of money on the table in the meantime, I just did not "get it "myself.Now, in examining the 4D, I DOIf you do not agree with what I am about to say, then you will be "lost"I know I "teased" you, but remember my original intent was two-fold:1) Give Ellis a "break" from all the 3D100 "stuff" ( I think I did)2) Tell you how to make a lot of money from Baccarat ( which, I will)But I do know, unless you "internalize" this, you will forget it in 24 hoursWhat a shame...I " KNEW IT" , and I forgot it.I left a lot of money on the table. until I went to Las Vegas, and played for two weeks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 What I am about to tell you may make NO SENSE, unless you go back to the answers Ellis provided me back in 2010.4 years...and we have left a lot of money on the table in the meantime, I just did not "get it "myself.Now, in examining the 4D, I DOIf you do not agree with what I am about to say, then you will be "lost"I know I "teased" you, but remember my original intent was two-fold:1) Give Ellis a "break" from all the 3D100 "stuff" ( I think I did)2) Tell you how to make a lot of money from Baccarat ( which, I will)But I do know, unless you "internalize" this, you will forget it in 24 hoursWhat a shame...I " KNEW IT" , and I forgot it.I left a lot money on the table. until I went to Las Vegas, and played for two weeks.....Playing for two weeks can "mess you up" Ellis knows this.Norm knows this (just ask him)And trbfla just got back from Vegas. He knows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I wonder if it will come before the seminar.HA!WE are both DIM-WITS.Everyone knows what those are.( this is not Baccarat Forum, after all...best we don't do this dance...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm A Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Playing for two weeks can "mess you up" Ellis knows this.Norm knows this (just ask him)And trbfla just got back from Vegas. He knows this.Sorry don't really know what you meanI lived in Vegas for four years and played every day, it did not mess me up????? Quote Norm A FOLLOW THE SHOE WHEN IN DOUBT WAIT IT OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sorry don't really know what you meanI lived in Vegas for four years and played every day, it did not mess me up?????[/QUOTgoodtohearyouwereavegasstalwartasitgivesourmembershopestormin'normingetitbestnottodukeitoutontheforumsaskyourfriendlivesinbiloxiaboutmeandiknowualreadyhavedonethisandhewillassureuintellectualdiscussionsbtweeenuandmewouldlbikediscussingobamacareandwebothknowwhothewinnerisevenbeforewestartandnoboywinssothisislikeanolivebranchihopeyouacceptit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sorry don't really know what you meanI lived in Vegas for four years and played every day, it did not mess me up?????[/QUOTgoodtohearyouwereavegasstalwartasitgivesourmembershopestormin'normingetitbestnottodukeitoutontheforumsaskyourfriendlivesinbiloxiaboutmeandiknowualreadyhavedonethisandhewillassureuintellectualdiscussionsbtweeenuandmewouldlbikediscussingobamacareandwebothknowwhothewinnerisevenbeforewestartandnoboywinssothisislikeanolivebranchihopeyouacceptit.There is nothing wrong with Obamacare! It was the best Republican idea in a long time - in fact the only Republican idea short of shutting down the government and stopping blacks from voting. Had they been smart enough to call it "Republicare", there would have been no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 So, here you go.And Pull-eeeze (!) write this down, and put it somewhere you can refer back to it every time before you go to the casino...YES, we already know that 4D looks for the LEAST DISPARITIES ( P/B, O/R, OTBL/TBL, and OO/TT)And we know that NOR looks for the GREATEST DISPARITIES But YES, there is a "TWIST" to this, and I will explain it so you, too, can make a lot of money.( That is why you are on this forum, is it not?)You mean highest "count".Yes, the 4D points out the lowest disparity of all 4. But it also points out the highest count of all 8 at the same time. Every shoe ever dealt has both - a lowest disparity and a highest count and both are highly playable. That is the whole point of the 4D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I can't believe it! Just when I thought it was safe to go to Walmart, we had yet another snow storm all day yesterday. The worst so far. Snowed in again! At least I still have electricity - knock on wood. A lot of people around here don't. Mine keeps blinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramden Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Good Morning Kevin, and everyone else,Are you trying to say that the key to the twist is to keep some sort of a running SAP count for every shoe we play?Like for example: during a 2 week playing trip to Las Vegas???and...Forgive me if I still am off track with this SAP stuff.Thanks!!Also, one of the longer term things I am trying to figure out about this game is variance from trip to trip. Why is it that if I win easily one trip, the next one usually evens out and is a tough trip. Or if I win 2x iar then I losea couple trips. But, overall I increase my bankroll, applying my game, over TIME... I have internally been thinking about this for a long time. Maybe I just couldn't wrap my arms around it...Same idea?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramden Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Let's take it another "potential" step then...Would it then be true that all 1st hands of a shoe would resolve to the same numbers?Ie. 50 percent of all first hands would be 1's ???2nd hands??? 20th hands?????Kachatz !!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnChamer Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sorry don't really know what you meanI lived in Vegas for four years and played every day, it did not mess me up?????[/QUOTgoodtohearyouwereavegasstalwartasitgivesourmembershopestormin'normingetitbestnottodukeitoutontheforumsaskyourfriendlivesinbiloxiaboutmeandiknowualreadyhavedonethisandhewillassureuintellectualdiscussionsbtweeenuandmewouldlbikediscussingobamacareandwebothknowwhothewinnerisevenbeforewestartandnoboywinssothisislikeanolivebranchihopeyouacceptit.Now that was just mean and nasty.... My eyes are buzzed out now. LolCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You mean highest "count".Yes, the 4D points out the lowest disparity of all 4. But it also points out the highest count of all 8 at the same time. Every shoe ever dealt has both - a lowest disparity and a highest count and both are highly playable. That is the whole point of the 4D.And THIS, MY FRIENDS , is e.x.a.c.t.ll.y. what I was waiting FOR!!!!!!!!!I am sorry if my many posts caused you heartache.I am sorry if I told you "many stories" about THE TWIST I am sorry if, even for one minute, you "thought long-and-hard" about "what-the-heck-is-this-guy-trying-to-tell-me? Is he "nuts" or what????"You see. I told you from the beginning I did not want to say anything about 4D ( remember it had no "name" back the n....it was, literally and figuratively, A HORSE WITH NO NAME...)That was in September.Then, I almost "said it" in November.THAT WAS " who let the dogs out" ? ( woof!)And then, just about a week ago, I (thought) anything/everything I could say about the 4D would be unfair to "say" ,as Dr. E. was now , already, onto a new topic, the 3D100....one which would allow you to quit your day job...So I said Nothing.Except a few days ago, I began this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 And THIS, MY FRIENDS , is e.x.a.c.t.ll.y. what I was waiting FOR!!!!!!!!!I am sorry if my many posts caused you heartache.I am sorry if I told you "many stories" about THE TWIST I am sorry if, even for one minute, you "thought long-and-hard" about "what-the-heck-is-this-guy-trying-to-tell-me? Is he "nuts" or what????"You see. I told you from the beginning I did not want to say anything about 4D ( remember it had no "name" back the n....it was, literally and figuratively, A HORSE WITH NO NAME...)That was in September.Then, I almost "said it" in November.THAT WAS " who let the dogs out" ? ( woof!)And then, just about a week ago, I (thought) anything/everything I could say about the 4D would be unfair to "say" ,as Dr. E. was now , already, onto a new topic, the 3D100....one which would allow you to quit your day job...So I said Nothing.Except a few days ago, I began this post.From the beginning, I called it THE TWIST.WHY? I DO NOT KNOW.Except I knew I could not call it "the middle"Not "sexy" enuff?Not something you would remember?Maybe I was just plain afraid that you, like me, like Ellis, like so many others, would "forget" more about "how to win at baccarat" than most people will ever know.And now, just when you all thought I was "off-my-rocker", just when I had so "milked the cows", even they would not show up for dinner, Ellis opened the door.His door, BTW.And soon to be "yours" as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 From the beginning, I called it THE TWIST.WHY? I DO NOT KNOW.Except I knew I could not call it "the middle"Not "sexy" enuff?Not something you would remember?Maybe I was just plain afraid that you, like me, like Ellis, like so many others, would "forget" more about "how to win at baccarat" than most people will ever know.And now, just when you all thought I was "off-my-rocker", just when I had so "milked the cows", even they would not show up for dinner, Ellis opened the door.His door, BTW.And soon to be "yours" as wellIf NOR, SAP and NORSAP is about looking for the "biggest disparities"And ,in the beginning, ( at least then...) 4D was about looking for the least disparities...meaning, identifying how-to/when "staying-in-jail" was JUSTIFIEDWho was "the keeper" of "the middle"?N.O.B.O.D.Y. was doing it. Nobody was paying attention.Not even Dr .E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 If NOR, SAP and NORSAP is about looking for the "biggest disparities"And ,in the beginning, ( at least then...) 4D was about looking for the least disparities...meaning, identifying how-to/when "staying-in-jail" was JUSTIFIEDWho was "the keeper" of "the middle"?N.O.B.O.D.Y. was doing it. Nobody was paying attention.Not even Dr .E.And THAT got me to thinking.What about "the middle" ?What about "the average" ?and YES, that is when THE TWIST was conceived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 And THAT got me to thinking.What about "the middle" ?What about "the average" ?and YES, that is when THE TWIST was conceived.No more than "milking" A HORSE WITH NO NAME Nothing exceptional about really "figuring out" what all of Ellis' chatter surrounding ONE IS THE LONLIEST NUMBER really meant.BUT, I finally "got-it"finally understood, because I "married" what he said about those two posts with his interpretation of the D'Alembert Betting Progression ( he mentioned 1910, earlier in this thread...thought he was going to "give it up" then...)AND I AM EMBARESSED TO SAY, I KNEW THIS IN 2010, and did not tell you until now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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