JimmyBaccarat Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 When I first started playing Baccarat 9 months ago - it made sense to "replay" shoes. SBI hadn't been created then, but, I started collecting shoes by walking around the Sands Casino and recording finished shoes to replay at home. In the Premium Forum... Oz recounts how Norm and Pappa Joe would telephone and replay shoes hand by hand over the phone. CT70 recounts how he would record the shoes in a tape recorder and replay them. kachatz suggests to buy 8 decks of cards, a shoe and to deal out the shoe. No matter which method of play is being used, the successful Premium members have one thing in common... they work at their game which includes going back over shoes that they have played. The SBI is a tool - a valuable tool - for me. How much so? Well, I've taken the time to input 1000 shoes from the Sands Casino. You don't play at the Sands? So what! There are 1000 shoes you can practice on. Dannboy has input 509. CT70 has input 277. McVince has input 204. Of course there are others too. 2820 shoes as of this writing in all from quite a few other casinos. No matter what "method" of play you are using, if you are not "replaying" your shoes or testing your ideas, well... the onus is on you. No one can "do/play" Baccarat for you. It is up to each individual to "do the work" necessary to be able to learn how to win. SBI is a tool that is waiting for you to use to develop your skill. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonics Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Though I paid for Premium for 6 months I never did purchase SBI. One reason is I already have a program containing thousands of real shoes. So yeah, always good to practice but better would be to have a program that takes the shoes and spits out one decision at a time. It's easy to get caught up in reverse engineering a strategy to a limited data set and developing a winning method; only to find out the next couple hundred shoes the whole thing tanks. LOL - done that more than once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users Sputnik Posted April 11, 2018 Users Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Supersonics how come you did not continue to be a Premium Member? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avion Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Supersonics said: So yeah, always good to practice but better would be to have a program that takes the shoes and spits out one decision at a time. FYI sonics.....SBI DOES spit out one decision at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 And we have live play sessions at the casinos, Live practice sessions at the dealer school in Vegas and also a live GotoMeeting play session with live cards tomorrow. Quote Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users ECD Posted April 11, 2018 Users Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, avion said: FYI sonics.....SBI DOES spit out one decision at a time. Also, there is no additional "purchase" of SBI -- it's available to all premium members. So you say you were a member, yet never participated in anything and never even saw/used SBI? If you really were a member, why did you bother? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOU30 Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) For the data programing guys this game has been played for century’s by some of the greats mathematical minds that have been around from its start. It is a well know fact the the game is 50/50 odds and over a period of time all results will return to their averages of 50% 1’s, 25% 2’s, 12.5% 3’s & 12.5% 4+’s. Another way of saying it is on average there will be 500 player results and 500 banker results per 1000s plays. You can break it down even more but I won’t bother. So Supersonics thinks he can make a judgment on a system /method running less than a dozen shoes through a programme or even worst playing live without practicing them first, not the characteristics of a professional player. Sputnik I know has been running programme data on Baccarat for quite some time maybe he can enlighten Supersonics on his findings. But guys don’t forget two things while playing with you programs, the first is the house edge and the most important thing is the game of Baccarat is a thinking mans game and not for computer programmes based on mathematical certainties. SBI does not play Baccarat for you nor does it find the data for winning methods, YOU must do all the hard work yourself, YOU must do the hard miles yourself. What SBI does do is give you a place to input all your shoes from where you play or intend to play along with every other member of the forum and then practice them until YOU learn how to beat the game mathematicians and your programmes say can’t be beaten. That is were the true value of SBI lies, and IMHO that is invaluable. Edited April 12, 2018 by LOU30 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBaccarat Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Absolutely Lou !!! Well said... Might I add.... Phil Ivey learned to play poker by sitting "at the table" playing for real money and figuring it out. With SBI, you can "Sit at the table" but it does not cost you your hard earned cash/bankroll while you learn how to beat the game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Don't forget tomorrow night I'm dealing live cards for a practice shoe via gotomeeting and the Vegas Seminar on the 23rd. 1 Quote Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonics Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 15 hours ago, avion said: FYI sonics.....SBI DOES spit out one decision at a time. thats a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avion Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 sonics = just another internet troll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Tell you what @supersonis you really have no benefit to us, this forum or yourself commenting here. While I realize that there are many who will disagree and not understand my entire relationship to others who worked for me, and who made and thought of concepts and ideas here makes no difference what you think, but know that anyone who was on the payroll here was paid handsomely already with the revenue generated. The concepts in this forum were developed by years of trial error and research from the members on this forum. None of the concepts are novel of themselves with all honesty as 50/50 games have been looked at from every angle at best we rediscover and find the statistics that matter; but truly have all been covered in statistics before if one digs deep enough. The mere naming a set of rules certain system and claiming novelty is simply what gaming system sellers do. In the end all systems are just a set of rules designed to make the simple look complex. What we do offer here is a forum of Gamblers who have found the statistics in games that seem to have more relevance than others and are able to pull a profit by utilizing these statistics in certain games. You seem to be hell-bent for some reason in coming here and trying to disparage what we have for some reason. I enjoy my club, the majority of the players enjoy it and we like it to continue that way and do not wish to engage in this sort of idle chatter that serves no purpose for our club. If you do not like it fine I understand not all will. I understand not all agree and it is fine. Here is what I am going to do I will be sending back your last's months membership fee via PAYPAL and will be removing your access from the forums here. Please take your conversations elsewhere Respectfully Keith 4 Quote Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users TX28 Posted April 12, 2018 Users Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Keith Smith said: Don't forget tomorrow night I'm dealing live cards for a practice shoe via gotomeeting and the Vegas Seminar on the 23rd. I'm a new member Keith and never participated is the live dealing cards. How can I participate and more information on that please. So exited. Any guidance will be appreciated. Thank you boss! Edited April 12, 2018 by TX28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 The link is in the private forum in the thread talking about tonight. It's a go to Meeting link Quote Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urnotme Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Keith Smith said: Tell you what @supersonis you really have no benefit to us, this forum or yourself commenting here. While I realize that there are many who will disagree and not understand my entire relationship to others who worked for me, and who made and thought of concepts and ideas here makes no difference what you think, but know that anyone who was on the payroll here was paid handsomely already with the revenue generated. The concepts in this forum were developed by years of trial error and research from the members on this forum. None of the concepts are novel of themselves with all honesty as 50/50 games have been looked at from every angle at best we rediscover and find the statistics that matter; but truly have all been covered in statistics before if one digs deep enough. The mere naming a set of rules certain system and claiming novelty is simply what gaming system sellers do. In the end all systems are just a set of rules designed to make the simple look complex. What we do offer here is a forum of Gamblers who have found the statistics in games that seem to have more relevance than others and are able to pull a profit by utilizing these statistics in certain games. You seem to be hell-bent for some reason in coming here and trying to disparage what we have for some reason. I enjoy my club, the majority of the players enjoy it and we like it to continue that way and do not wish to engage in this sort of idle chatter that serves no purpose for our club. If you do not like it fine I understand not all will. I understand not all agree and it is fine. Here is what I am going to do I will be sending back your last's months membership fee via PAYPAL and will be removing your access from the forums here. Please take your conversations elsewhere Respectfully Keith Very well stated Keith and also very magnanimous of you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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