Well i am new to this forum and i allready practising some of the system up on this forum. I have played Bac before but allways lost to the casino at the end. I have been practising some of the system against DB shoes and it looks promissing. I think the secret to win long term is experience,a good system , MM and Disciplene. I am sure no system can win always. But if you have a good system you can win long term.