PAULSAVAS

THANKS TO maxfli52, MVS AND ELIS, THE BULB WENT ON SO I REALIZE WHY I HAVE BEEN ASSUMING POSTED SHOES IN SOME CASES HAD TYPOS. HERE IS MY TWO CENTS WORTH: I CREATED MY SCORE CARD ON MY COMPUTER USING MICROSOFT WORD. I ARRANGE MY CARD SO I READ IT HORIZONTALLY (LEFT TO RIGHT). MY SCORE CARD HAS 22 COLUMNS . THERE ARE SIX HORRIZONTAL ROWS. (#1 TO #6). (top to bottom) (half of an 81/2 by elven sheet) ROW #1 CARRIES THE EVENTS DELIVERED TO THE BANK SIDE. ROW #2 CARRIES THE EVENTS DELIVERED TO THE PLAYER SIDE. THE EVENTS ARE POSTED AS THE GAME PROCEEDS. ACTUALLY I POST TO MY SCORE CARD BY POSTING A "DOT" IN THE BOX OF THE WINNING SIDE. SO IF THE GAME OPENS ON BANK THERE IS A DOT IN BOX (1 BANK). If PLAYER WON FIRST THERE IS A DOT IN PLAYER BOX 1 AND i POST AN X IN BANK BOX 1. i continue posting a dot for the Winner in the appropriate box for the Winning side. When the winning side looses i count the dots and post the numerical number representing the total of the dots. i call this "compression". "Compression" saves space on the score card. The BTC score card is held vertically and reads from TOP to BOTTOM through 4 double columns SHOWING (B & P) IN each column. BOTH card designs will show the expected 80 hands. BTC AND I BOTH IGNORE TIES. Mathematically Baccarat TIE is the worst odds bet of any game. When BTC POSTS games they also compress the single events into a TOTAL NUMBER. When BTC game posting is at the bottom of a given column and the side continues to win the BTC card is posted to the top of the card to the winning side. (IE: say Player has won three consecutive hands and the entry space AT THE BOTTOM is filled BY hands entered, the player side at the top will carry and additional winning hands. soooo, lets say player won five hands----three hands will be posted at the bottom of the card and two hands will post at the top, making five in total. Because my card will contain all dots in the appropriate player box the numeral 5 will apper as a single entery. i hope this is clear. My misunderstanding has been cleared up. Thanks !!! My design suits me because i want to rapidly see when the shoe delivers a run of three or more hands. Since this IS a real fifty fifty odds game with each side having and equal chance of winning: Winning only "once" to me is NEGATIVE (- minus). Winning "more" than once is POSITIVE (+ plus). These events to me take on a meaning of objects. The minus is negative object. The plus is a positive object. (the size of the plus is ignored). A 2 WIN has the same meaning as 5 or 7 or 10 etc. sooooo, is the shoe positve or negative?? they should be equal---will the shoe correct???? this is where BTC come in. Various playing techniques are explained. PLEASE FORGIVE THE mouth full---thanks for your help GUYS!!

i've have been planning to join the private forum for some time. i have tried to post the shoes you show in the public forum and find i can not post to my card because i find an in balance between the Bank hands and Players hands. if i can't understand a simple posting of Bank Player hands i feel i wont understand the private forum. Is there an explaination of your display? Can you show the game with the score card Bank hands on top with the following Player hands on the bottom? This will be only about 20 entries each accross the page. i interpret the numerals shown, as the number of consecutive wins for Bank or Player at that delivery point in the game. The number of Bank and Player ENTRIES should be equal, adjusting for the opening hand on Player and the last hand be it Bank or Player. Ofcourse the total win score for Bank will be inderpendent of the Player win total. The volume of Bank entries per delivery and Player entries should be equal (plus or minus one). Can it be you are posting partial shoes?

The posted baccarat shoe is a real tough delivery for those who play baccarat expecting to "follow the shoe" meaning bet the side that won last. In that way, when the shoe delivers a long consecutive win delivery on any side your on it for as long as it lasts. The posted shoe had a total 27 chops (single winners=1) 12 (double wins=2), and six higher runs. The six are--- one (three),--- four (four's)--- and one (five). A craps player-- using the "don't pass" --- "two run" max system --going against the winning side--would have earned one unit on each of the "chops" (single winners) and one unit on each of the double wins. This is a win total so far of 39 units. The system lost 3 units on each of the six runs in excess of two. The money management betting routine is bet one unit until you lose. Then again bet against the winning side with two units. That is it!!! If you loose you lost three units. If you win you win one unit net. (you lost one unit in the prior bet and now won two making up the loss and earning one unit profit. Ok that is it!!!!. When you have lost three units because the winning side won three in a row you pass until that side looses. You start against the new winning side betting one unit against the new one unit win. This is called--- "don't two"--- in the craps pit. Never bet against the three or any higher run. Wait for the loss to the run side and start again. The longest run i have seen was 23 in a row on players. Side. Trying to don't the run of 23 means you lost your money and your clothes. Rule of thumb: Reduce your exposure . The casino has the edge against you no matter what!! Have a realistic unit win goal. Make it and quit. Then play the next shoe. Win objective and quit. The don't system depends on chops being in command. Wins one unit at a time but often. The shoe above housed 27 chops--12 duces and 6 runs higher than two. Chops and duces gave you 39 single wins. The six higher runs cost you three units each or a loss of 18 units. Don't system delivered a win of 21 units. (you can't win on the last chop cause you can't bet against as the shoe ended. The score is +20 units. Baccarat shoes are "negative" (loaded with chops) play don't. Positve populated by runs of three or more with scarce chops. Neutural populated by only 8 runs with close to 10 chops per side and some twos==break even or a small loss.(8 runs x3 = 24 lost units) chops total =20 units won---plus the twos win one unit each. Learning to quickly spot shoes as you go is the function of "beat the casino" (members forum). Learning to use don't or other approaches can be learned at btc which then gives you the opportunity to practice before going live as did the junior member who posted this shoe. Best of luck all.

this is very much of interest. i would sign up depending on the cost. time of day is not important to me. i support the most economical time available. this would also assure me i will understand using "MAVRICK". This would settle an issue for me , so i could join the forum knowing with confidence that i will understand and benifit from joining. paul savas

Count me in going to google to test paul savas

can't tell anymore. i copied the shoes to try my system, and as i realized i had previously copied the shoe i was on i skipped it and went on. i made no notes on my work so i can't tell which shoe was duplicated. sorry. paul savas

The two shoes above are duplicate

I think it is a great idea--if the crowd doesn't become too large so the class room effect is lost. It's the inter action that is effective to learning. All should be free to ask questions to clear personal confusion or lack of understanding. Nothing succeeds like doing the instruction live. So if we can have one shoe dealt (on screen) and played by the attendees at which each hand will be discussed. Vegas or atlantic city is a good idea. How about paying the cost of such gathering by having our best player play live for the group using cash paid in by the attendees. A fee for btc could also be earned. Bacypoo