Hi JackyWing Well, the NBJ way would be to not play such a difficult game. Ideally, you should be looking to beat the easiest game in the casino. At the best time of the day (when you are at your best and when the casino is at the most vulnerable), find the best seat, in the best table, in the best pit, in the best casino, in the best casino town. Table selection pays handsomely. Take the time to find a good table. If everyone is getting killed, that's not a good sign. If the dealer is constantly making magical hands, that's not a good sign. If you can't ever win, that's not a good sign. Get out of there and find something easy to beat or go home or come back on a different day and time. If a particular game is not beatable, you shouldn't play, leave as fast as you can. Don't stay in a bad game. You need to find games that are beatable. If you don't have NBJ under your belt, most tables are hard to beat. Even with NBJ there will be times when all the tables are unbeatable (e.g. when tables are nearly all 7 players). If these machines seem unbeatable, then find hand shuffled games or MD1-type machine shuffled games. Well I could on, but maybe I'm revealing too many NBJ secrets. Sorry Ellis! Best Regards, Rocky-42