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Its not a question about going toward zero or away from zero, is about speaking about something you don't know, about a person that I estimated a lot and that I have been proud to collaborate with. I don't want people using the name of Normand for promoting something that have no links with his work, just to promote a kind of "strategy being the result of 20 years of research" or similar bull...t. A

From the old forum that cannot be named: "Norm was at $25 for a long time. He worked on his hit rate as I’ll describe below. But once he achieved a great hit rate, he started increasing his unit rather than the number of units he bet. He went from $25 to $5000 units in less than 2 years. So how did Norm achieve such a high hit rate? Well, we know that Norm kept both the OR and OT counts. This told him what the, shoe thus far, was favouring between S40 (opposites), OtB4L and TB4L. But it also told him when the shoe was not favouring anything (when those two counts were hovering “0”) – when the shoe was favouring random. We don’t talk about that much about random shoes. But when a counts keeps crossing “0”, it is a good bet to bet that count will go toward “0” rather than away from “0”. For instance, lets say the OT count keeps crossing 0. But right now the OT count is at +4. Since historically in the shoe we are playing right now, TB4L and OTB4L have been running equal (the OT count keeps returning to or crossing “0”) Your best bet right now is to bet TB4L – That the +4 OT count will go no higher. I think NORM “saw” that while the rest of us don’t. We are all busy watching for a count to take off in one direction or the other. Norm watched for that too. But Norm ALSO noted when a count refused to take off – when a count favoured “0”, he bet that count would go TOWARD “0” rather than further away because that is the nature of the shoe at hand. Playing NOR, we tend to lose shoes that produce no bias because we only think in terms of away from “0” – that the highest count will go higher. Norm saw that too but he also noted when to bet AGAINST that premise. When, in a given shoe, we have a count that is staying in jail – can’t get out of the -3 to +3 range, our best bet is to bet that count will stay in jail – to bet the highest count well go TOWARD “0” rather than AWAY from “0”. We are good at betting AWAY from 0. But many shoes, especially pre-shuffled cards which Norm favoured, our best bet is TOWARD “0” when the shoe at hand is favouring toward 0 – favouring neutral – favouring a “0” count. That way Norm could beat the randomness that preshuffled cards favour. It is difficult to explain which I think is why Norm couldn’t explain how he played. NOR always bets that the highest counts will keep going away from “0”. But Norm “saw” when the opposite was true in a given shoe – to bet the highest count well reverse and go toward “0” BECAUSE that is what it has historically done in the shoe at hand. Any count can only do two things: 1. It can favour AWAY from 0. 2. It can favour TOWARD “0”. NOR always bets AWAY from “0” But Norm knew when to bet TOWARD “0” when THAT is what the shoe is favouring. He just couldn’t explain it. Ha, apparently neither can I. But end result, playing that way, Norm won more bets than we do. When a shoe is favouring AWAY from “0”, fine, bet that way. (NOR) BUT, when a shoe is favouring toward “0”, fine, bet THAT way (NORM) THAT is why Norm won more often than we do. He didn’t just bet away from “0” like we do. He also knew when to bet TOWARD “0” when THAT is what the shoe at hand is favouring – which it does about half the time. I don’t think Norm’s loop 1,2 progression had a thing to do with it. I think he won just as many 1 bets as 2 bets. I think his entire success was because his hit rate was better than ours. He “SAW” when to bet toward “0”. We only see when to bet AWAY from “0”. BUT, when a shoe favours TOWARD “0” – Norm won while we lost. THAT was his secret. THAT was the lesson he left us. It just took me a while to decipher it. While difficult to explain, Norm’s entire secret is fully revealed in this post. While for some, it’s just a bunch of meaningless words, for others it will turn on a very important light bulb for the first time. TOWARD “0” is just as important as away from “0”. We only look at shoes ONE way – away from “0”. Norm saw TWO ways. Sure, he bet the same as we do in the half of all shoes that favour a high count. But he ALSO saw when the shoe at hand was favouring “0” – favouring low counts. THAT is when he knew to bet against the highest count – to bet TOWARD “0” rather than away. THAT is how he won the same shoes that we lost. THAT is the message he left us. Some will get it – some won’t. NORM saw TWO choices where we only see ONE. We need to look at BOTH our options because only ONE of them is best for the shoe at hand. Is the shoe at hand favouring AWAY from “0” or is it favouring TOWARD “0”. Every shoe is one or the other and those two counts are telling us which way the shoe at hand is favouring. We need to open our eyes and realize we have a SECOND option. Bet toward “0” when the counts are going nowhere. THAT is how NORM got his hit rate so much higher than us. Get it? WE are good at HALF the shoes. NORM was good at ALL the shoes. He showed us the way!" I AM REALLY SICK ABOUT THIS PEOPLE SPEAKING ABOUT NORM WITH NO IDEA OF WHAT HE WAS DOING! I WAS IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH HIM AND I KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING, ...But these people has no idea . I invite them to RESPECT THE MEMORY of our brightest star! F...k them off. A

Kevin, I hate BJ (I mean blackjack, lol) but I thought someone was interested. I read is played in LV at Ballys and El Cortez in downtown. A

Keith, found this for you, maybe interesting... Double Attack Blackjack Double Attack Blackjack is a blend between Spanish 21 and Classic Blackjack. While the standard game of blackjack, or Classic Blackjack as it’s sometimes known, is generally pretty easy to understand and play, there are many variations on the game that introduce several twists on the standard rules, and one of those variations is Double Attack Blackjack. The game itself is a variation of Spanish 21 that pays even money on a blackjack and gives the player the chance to double their initial wager after seeing the dealer’s up card, something that happens before their own cards are dealt. Double Attack Blackjack is mainly found in Atlantic City, where almost half of the casinos offer it as a game choice. Double Attack Rules and How to Play As mentioned, this variation of Blackjack comes with its own set of rules that differ to the standard game. These are as follows: Eight 48-card Spanish decks are used, this consisting of a standard deck of cards minus the 10s. Dealer stands on soft 17 Dealer shall peek for blackjack Player may double after a split Aces may not be re-split, while all other pairs may be re-split to three or four hands, depending upon the casino in question. Winning player blackjack pays out even money Player may double or surrender at any time, including after splitting. Split Aces receive a single card only Insurance pays 5 to 2 The first card dealt in Double Attack Blackjack is the dealer’s up card. As previously mentioned, the player can then choose to double their bet, or ‘Double Attack’. The raise may be up to the original wager placed. If the player later splits, he must match his double attack wager. Bust It Side Bet Players also have the option of placing a bust it side bet as well. The bust it wager pays out if the dealer goes bust with three cards. The side bet pays out different amounts depending upon the cards the dealer has. If the dealer has suited 888, the payout is usually 200 to 1. Colored 888 pays out 50 to 1. If the dealer busts with 6, 7, 8 or 9, the payout is 15 to 1, 10 to 1, 8 to 1 and 6 to 1, respectively. Finally, if the dealer goes bust with a face card, the payout is 3 to 1. Double Attack Blackjack Online from Playtech While Double Attack Blackjack may be played in land-based casinos more-so, Playtech has created an online version for you to play from the comfort of your home. The game does provide the same feeling and layout as a land-based game. You’re asked to place bets at the start, with chips of values 0.1 through to 100 available to choose from. The minimum wager is $1 and the maximum is $300 per round. Then, following the rules mentioned above, you’ll be able to place double attacks, bust it side bets and insurance wagers with ease. In Summary This version of blackjack could be classed as a slightly more advanced take on the classic. There's obviously the addition of extra rules and features that don't necessarily need to be memorized, but are there to introduce a new way of playing the game for your enjoyment.

Hi Phelps, welcome to our forum. I read with interest your post, especially the last part where you mention stop win and loss. I think they are pretty reasonable BUT require a disciplined player, on the long term. Remember that your stop loss must be in relation with your avg. winning. IE, if you win 3 units 8 times out of 10, thats pretty doable, your stop loss shouldn't be more than 4 units, this because you need a return from your efforts (so +24 -8 = +16 units). So +3/2 units with a stop loss of 3/4 is a good starting point. if you analyze your wins and losses (make a graph of w/l same as P/B and look for any patterns there) you could grab some more units or, at least, skip some losses. There would be more on this subject but you must be a premium member to interact deeply with me or other pros, here at BTC. I love the idea of hit n run, I will talk about that in my master class on 27th. A

Oz, you forgot to mention that, in an avg. shoe, within 20 decisions you "should" find a serie of 4. what about -12 units when the prog sucks? My opinion is that we should not give more importance to some decisions towards others (IE betting 3 units instead of 1). The skilled player GET THE MOMENT to raise bets, during a hitting pattern and then, retranch! this is why we play! (hope that NBA does not calls me money from copyright infringement) A

Hi Stan, welcome back! is it ok now in PR? 2nlr means Second Liner A

a new one!

wow!

add this: LMFAO!

Agree, I started play in 1986 and went many times to MonteCarlo, Nice and Cannes. Beautiful old times and good winnings! Everytime paid for my trip with casino's momey. The funniest thing, for my americans friend, is that you had to pay a ticket to enter casino, at these times something like 10 usd! A

I must say that I start finding all this story very sad. IMO, Ellis is still brilliant baccarat mind, the problem is that debating is not an option and this, in a field like baccarat, is a mere disaster because you cannot sell a product 100% reliable, it will ALWAYS lose to something, and customers NEED to know why and when. A honest debate can help to increase strengths and decrease weaknesses, after that, everybody can take their own options. Another problem is to not be able to think "outside the box", proposing the same old U1D2 in its variations, is a gift to casinos; no others MM have been taken into serious consideration. I have already wrote about my suggestions to E.: be honest with customers, shows pros and cons of the methods, the when and why, after that, anybody is free to take his own risks, accept and encourage debate and infos exchanging, things that make players grow; make serious testing before claiming successes un existing. my two cents A

Great Avion, I'd add also: "casinos managers know our moves and changed cards..." ...everytime! lol

ehi, do you stay in this area? planning to go there in late february A

what you'd if you buy a car that doesn't work? and the company refuses to repair it or giving your money back? I will go to my advocate and I will post this everywhere, to warn people! BTC is doing the same... what ECD should do? take care of customers, accept a debate, improve and seriously test systems, speak about weaknesses and strengths of the method, work with players to get better results, in poor words, what was BTC when he was there... instead, looking for people that wants the golden nugget, he sells a product that's years-light far from what he promises and that's bad. many of us are here to help players to become successful or, at least to improve their knowledge, not to get scammed. A

16 units bet? LMFAO

It's MM only, long blog full of b...it if you need attention, be more exhaustive about your method A

I have apdf file w 60 sh better send it by mail A

ok pm your eml i will send some to you

I read many posts of AR but I found them always with a good wording but poor in contents. I have learn nothing from his thousand words, apart generic MM that you can find in any book/forum. but maybe it's me... A

go to stats for profit there are thousands of available shoes A

BLitz answered you correctly. I could add that's important looking also to the DIRECTION of the count, to get changements from streaky to choppy and viceversa A

go to premium section it had already been a master class for newbies, to make you tuned with terminologies and betting techniques I think today there will be the next one, check it! A

join the prem join the premium member section (50$/mth only) and watch the conference with one of our professionals, this time with katchaz, that will share some of his knowledge, really priceless! A

Thank you, this is the spirit of this forum! I appreciate it a lot! A