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Congrats Andrea and Paul! I read the posts on the BF site. What a way to show camaraderie with other bacc players on BF. More 9s to you guys! BK

No offense to you Audionut but this system is NOT YOUR ORIGINAL. It has already a manual on the "other" forum and was written by a baccarat player named "Eirescott." BK

Like what I said on my previous posts, I abandoned S40/A a long time ago because this system struggles on multi-trend shoes. In my country of play, S40/A is not a good system to use. Multi-trend shoes are common occurrences to us in Asia. What I did this year is I created my own 1) approach, 2) exit strategy and kept my 3) negative prog to three. My combinations up to present are perfect. Zero loss. 100% win rate. I use the simple Opposite and Repeat bets only. I have my own trigger switch. You'll be amazed on the simplicity of these two. You will not see/read this on any forum. If you could master these, you can beat any shoe. My exit strategy is +10 units. Whenever I hit this, I quit. My customized negative progression is 124. This is not the typical 124 that you know 'cause I designed it to be conservative. I start with a base bet of 3-unit and ends my session goal at 5-units. My session goal per day is +50 units. On the average, I hit this in less than three hours. I do not finish an entire shoe anymore because it exposes me to a higher risk of loss. On the average, I only play 15-20 hands (1st column). BK

Both can give you winning units between +4 to +10 without breaking a sweat only if you have a VERY GOOD EXIT STRATEGY. Both systems are the opposite of each other. The weakness of Maverick is the strength of S40 while the weakness of S40 is the strength of Maverick. Lots of systems here can give you a conservative +2 to +4 units per shoe. No need to shell out $1000 for an approach that basically uses Repeat bets. Too expensive. Better if you customize your own approach using a few of the system here. That's what I did. There is no such thing as a mechanical system. I've won a total of 150 shoes on the last 15 days WITHOUT A LOSS and I tell you what I am using is not a mechanical system. Focus on your exit strategy per shoe and you will achieve what I am achieving. BK

That’s my point. Since almost all the systems/approaches that we are using here and on other forums failed on the long grind, what we did was we studied the flaws of each system to come up with a better one that will stand the grind. Why did such systems failed? One, the number of bet placements. Too many bets, high risk of losses. Two, when to switch. If you will only rely on our OR (C/S) count then the system is already flawed. Like I said, casinos know how we maneuver our bets using the OR count. Third, trace. The disadvantage of using a score sheet in tracking the trend of the shoe is we are leaving a trace of our system to the casinos for them to study. Always remember this. Casinos are way too advanced. They will protect their billion dollar investments. Also, I told this before on the forum. How sure are we that we do not have member on this forum that is not a casino employee (spy) who specializes on systems? Come on man. The membership here will only cost you USD150-500. The other site is USD1,000. Books about baccarat cost USD150-200. Yes the game (baccarat) is beatable but only if you know how to outwit the casinos on a daily basis. Fourth, playing attitude. Almost all bacc players reached 60 hands or more before deciding to quit regardless whether he won or lost. This is human nature. Greed. So we are focusing our approach to stand the whole 60 hands or more. Also, since almost all systems will struggle on multi-trend shoes our approach focuses on such shoes. Multi-trend shoes are common in my area of play. We believe this is the new trend on card shuffle. These were some of our considerations when we started developing our new approach. This makes the game beatable. You only have to choose one side to win. I disagree. All systems here at BTC can give you at least +2 unit win. The problem is your exit plan. When is enough is enough for you? I disagree again. If you believe that the 6/8 decks of cards are not random then luck has nothing to do with our bet placements. The cards are already pre-arranged inside the shoe. All we have to do is catch the given trend of the shoe. Be it a single trend (chop or streak all the way), double (chop at first then reverses to streak vice-versa) or multi-trend. This is where systems/approaches come in. Not if you have a very strong approach to the game. Like I said, if you want to win consistently on baccarat you have to have discipline, patience and skills of the game. Without these three you will just be another bacc player. BK

+/- 2 win/loss

No. Like what I said, I only do flat bet. I do not use progression anymore. My stop/loss is +/- 2. I leave the bacc table whenever I will be hit by 2 losses in a row. I now have the luxury of betting a 5-unit bet size coz I am now playing with casino money. This did not happen overnight. It takes a lot of discipline, patience and knowledge (skills) of the game to reach my level of play now. Yes I understand your situation. I've been there before. This is the same reason why I am more selective on my bet placements nowadays. With a 5-unit bet size, I cannot afford to lose 4 losses in a row in one shoe. This is bad play my friend. Therefore I capped my stop loss to -2. The problem with betting every hand (deals) is you are exposing yourself to a high risk of losing bets. Here’s my suggestion. There are lots of system here on our forum that can give you a +2 unit win. You can customize your own approach. Do not limit yourself to just one system. Maybe you will tell me what if I hit my +2-unit after 10 hands only? Will I quit or continue playing? Well, this is what I meant by discipline, patience & knowledge of the game. As for me, I already gave you an idea of what I will do. My favorite is RWS. Both casino are trendless. This is the new trend in baccarat --- trendless (multi-trend). Shifting from one trend to another. BK

Regarding the issue on what progression to use, this will all depend on how much you are willing to stake. Each player, be novice or advanced player in bacc, have different preferences when it comes to bet size. It is subjective. Before, I flat bet. Then, I learned on this forum the different progressions so I used it. But eventually I returned to flat betting again. Why? For me, this is a conservative approach to bet placements. Baccarat is about winning more decisions than losing. At the end of each shoe we play, what matter most is the number of correct bets versus the losing bets. To explain further, take for example progs like 123, 234 or even the 345. I used this prog before but I realized it has a counterpart on flat betting. A 123 prog’s counterpart is a 2 unit size per bet , a 234 is a 3 unit size and the 345 is a 4 unit bet size per bet. It is the same at the end of the shoe but it has a different effect when you are being hit by consecutive losses in a row. You will see that flat betting is more conservative to use in the long run. I started flat betting at 1 unit size per bet but now since I have more skills and knowledge about the game I am comfortable at 5 unit size per bet. This lessens my time on the bacc table leading to a lesser risk of losing a shoe. My formula is simple. Less Time on the Bacc Table + Correct Bets = Hitting Your Session Goal. Btw, my daily session goal is +50 units. This is only ten correct bets in one session not per shoe. Let me repeat. 10 correct bets per session. This is only 1 correct bet per shoe so you need ten shoes to achieve it or 2 correct bets per shoe then you need only 5 shoes or 3 correct shoes then you only need at least 3 shoes and so on. Easy huh? It depends on what system you are using. With the “proper approach/system†and include also your “right mental attitude towards the gameâ€, definitely YES! After hitting it, no matter what, I’m out. You will not see my shadow inside the casino. BK

To all following this thread, I/We abandoned totally S40M as well as S40/S40A. Not a good system to use in our country. It really “sucks†on multi-trend (hybrid) shoes. Me together with my other prof bacc players are applying what we call our TRIGGER SYSTEM. We’ve been applying the system/approach since January 3, 2011 and so far, so very good. It is designed to handle multi-trend (hybrid) shoes with ease. I just don’t know if my group will allow me to post it here on BTC. Copyright issues I guess. Maybe I can post a few sample shoes using our approach in the future. BK

No offense but you are a slow learner by baccarat standard. Give yourself another six months. If still no improvement after that, quit playing the game. Baccarat is not for you. Be true to yourself. You like baccarat but baccarat doesn’t like you. I am playing baccarat for the last four years. I have my own approach/system back then before I joined this forum last 2009. I paid the lifetime membership offered before and discovered/learned my flaws for the last three years playing the game. Since then, I am winning more shoes than losing on a consistent basis. You do not need a “large†sample size to count on your method. Like what Andrea (Wolfat) said, know the shoe’s bias. You don’t need 100,000 shoe sample size to know that. Sorry, I forgot. You are a slow learner by baccarat standard. Don’t worry. Everything on this forum is spoonfeeded to you. Systems, bet sizes, sample shoes (both online & live table games), playing experiences. You name it. It’s all here. All you have to do is have the right learning attitude. In my country of play, we have non-smoking areas and non-smoking tables. You do not have these on your area? BK

Yes sir. No problem with that. Just keep me posted. We are already testing/applying this approach sir on actual table games. We started last January 3, 2011. We are still recording the results. So far so very good. I just don’t know if what’s on your mind is the same as what we are using right now. If same then we can share our inputs since we are already applying it. Yes it is large. If you can develop a system that can consistently beat multi-trend shoes then I believe your forum will have a huge following in Asia. Day in, day out our shoes here in Asia are multi-trend (at least from the places I've been playing --- Macau, Singapore & Philippines). Yes. Since the upcoming system will concentrate on taking advantage of whatever the shoe is doing now and totally ignoring shoe history, how about naming it --- “THE TRIGGER.†This sounds interesting than ADNLS, at least on the marketing aspect of your business. Bk

Btw, I also studied/played morning, afternoon, evening, late evening and early morning card preps but STILL NO TREND (PATTERN). Everyday is a "battle" in my country of play. I think Multi-Trend Shoes are the new era of card preparation. It is happening already in Asian casinos. Maybe next will be your country. Your last Hollywood Trip is a Preview. Veteran players in my country are now thinking of new approaches in beating multi-trend shoes. Gone are the days of easy single or double trend shoes. At least in my area of play. BK

Asian Casinos (Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines etc.) offer these kind of shoe trends (multi-trends). These are common occurrences in our casinos. Like what I said, go to Singapore, Malaysia or even the Philippines and you will experience first hand that S40 will struggle. From my playing experience, S40 is weak on multi-trend shoes. The main problem is the switching from S40 to F2/F3 to RD1 to OTB4L vice-versa on multi-trend shoes. Most of the time, your switch is already late for the next trend. In multi-trend shoes, our SAP and OR (C/S) count has no use. The New S40 Manual should include a chapter on how to handle multi-trend shoes. Otherwise, S40A will only be “another†good approach. +1, 0, -1 (Neutral)....... -8 (Streaky) ....+8 (Choppy)...... You will see ALL these trends in one shoe --- MULTI-TREND. NO COLOR CODING (Blue/Red). You do not have any idea if the “table area†is a straight chop, streak, neutral or multi-trend. They do not have a “pattern†on the “table areas.†Just CUT and DEAL. 8 DECKS IN A SEALED TRANSPARENT SHEET. You will see the actual 8 decks. Before the cut and deal, the Dealer will open the sealed transparent sheet containing the 8 decks of cards. He will now discard maximum of ten cards from the deck before placing the 8 decks of cards inside the shoe box. YES. BOTH ON MULTI-TREND SHOES. STRAIGHT RUNS, ZZ RUNS and included will be the TT RUNS OF 5s 6s 7s 8s etc. NO SPECIFIC PATTERN FOR THE DAY. On one table the run is 5, the other 8, the other 16(!) then the other, NO RUNs at all. SAME SHOE GOING THREE-WAYS (Streaky, Choppy & Neutral) on one shoe. Having answered all your queries Sir Ellis, I believe you now have an idea my day-to-day battle with our casinos in my country of play. More “challenging†I believe. BK

It is better if you don't expect too much for this to happen. If you will have the chance to play in any Asian casino (Macau, Singapore, Philippines etc.) you will experience first hand that S40 will struggle. Unless Sir Ellis & Co. can address the "switching" concern of S40, then S40 is just "another good approach." BK

I agree with you here Probac. These are the kind of shoes they encountered on their last Hollywood trip. Eventhough we combine S40-F2/3-RD1-OTB4L, the question still remains --- "when will be the best time to switch systems?" Relying on our OR count alone to switch systems can be very tricky. Like what I said, casinos know how we maneuver our bet placements using OR count. These came straight from the mouth of my casino employee friend. I cannot tell his/her position but he/she is included on the top hierarchy of operations. BK

To start with, I am using two progressions on this new approach. U1D2M2 (23456...) and the Martingale prog (248). If this is too aggressive for you then this approach will not benefit you. Second, I do not rely on our O/R counts anymore. Casinos already knew our maneuvers using the O/R count. If you notice, they are starting to release lots of hybrid shoes on your country. In Asia, these hybrid shoes are common occurrences to us. Play in Macau or Singapore and you will see S40 will struggle. Third, I use triggers to out-maneuver these hybrid shoes. In this way, casinos could not easily detect the patterns of my bet placements. This is the key to beating them consistently. NO chart, NO trace of our betting patterns. They will be left scratching their heads. Unfortunately, I can not post a play-by-play because this will expose my approach. I can only give you some tips how you can develop your own system/approach. The best systems are here at BTC. You should learn how to customize these systems to fit your style of play. As for me, maybe I created something interesting. Something innovative. I still have to prove to myself if this will hold on the long haul. The goal is 3 consecutive months of consistent winnings. Next week will be my first month. Let's see what will happen. BK

Frankly speaking, I do not rely anymore on our BTC SYSTEMS ALONE. No matter how vast it is. Why? NO system on this forum and in other forums made me win for 3 consecutive months (Note: This is 60 playing games in my calendar). Everytime a new system will be launched, the casinos already have an anti-dote for that system. Did you notice that? Everytime we go to casinos and have our own sheet/chart to record our shoe then we are leaving a trace to them what system we are using. Look what happened to Mark’s Maverick. He literally opened his system to the casinos eye in the sky because of the extensive charting his system entails. Casinos are not stupid. If we are studying them, they are studying us in advance also. As of the moment, I could not post the modifications I made on S40 because 1) like I said, it will directly contradict our S40 Manual; 2) if it will not win for 3 consecutive month (60 playing games) then it means this is not a very good customized approach; and 3) after the Hollywood trip, our founders should have found already the solution/s on such hybrid shoes. I don’t think F3 will solve the puzzle. Right now, the only thing these modifications surpassed was the 40 straight games won by Sir Ellis using the original S40. BK

You’re missing my point. I am talking here about “hybrid shoes.†If our S40 could not win on these hybrid shoes then common sense tell us that Repeat bets alone have no chance at all. We have to customize the different systems available here at BTC to come up with a solid approach in beating casino shoes on a consistent basis. The last Hollywood trip exposed the weaknesses of S40. Something our founders have overlooked before launching the S40 manual. BK

No. The S40 winning shoes doubled the winning units when the S40M was applied. Like I said, two progressions were used on certain triggers. That made one of the differences of S40M. BK

Hi Sir Ellis and Andrea. This is BK not Audio. A little mixed-up eh? Been absent on the forum for a while. Been busy studying the overall weaknesses of S40. Honestly, the modifications are done already even before your last Hollywood trip. My familiarity with hybrid shoes gave me the understanding on the weaknesses of S40. I tested my S40M (modifications) on your Hollywood shoes and the results were phenomenal. Your -23 was converted to +0… -8 to +11… -4 to +3… -4 to +24… +1 to +33… +2 to +24… These shoes are all losers to our S40 but winners to my S40M. My problem right now is how I can explain these modifications in a very simple way. For example, I am using two progressions on S40M. 23456 (lose the 6 go back to 2) and the Martingale - 246 on selected triggers (Note: This should have been 248 but I made it more conservative). Another, the combination of O/R count and Triggers. Which will be prioritized? What are these Triggers? This is something new. Casino shoes have certain tendencies. The MC/LC count has a little impact already because of the complexity of the shoe (hybrid). The LC will become the MC then the MC will be the LC. RD1/F2/F3 will no longer be used because simple Repeat bet/s will do. This is my dilemna. The modifications I made on our S40 will contradict our manual. BK

First, my deepest condolences to Sir Ellis. You’re always on our prayers. The last Hollywood trip shoes were common occurrences in my country of play so when I read what happened on that last trip I was unfazed with the outcome. In my country of play, casino shoes are always the “hybrid†type ( “+†at some plays then will go to “–“ then eventually will become “neutral†and vice-versa) and you will see this happening on the entire 72 plays. S40 can beat almost all shoes as long as it is not the “hybrid†type. This is what I call “Anti-S40 Shoes.†SO HOW DO WE BEAT THESE KIND OF SHOES? I already made modifications (S40M) on S40 making it battle-ready on such “hybrid†shoes but I can not share it for the meantime due to the following: 1) S40 Advanced is underway we just don’t know the release (I might pre-empt S40A) and 2) I am still completing my 200 actual live games in the casino (as of today, I just played 50 live games using S40M with STILL NO LOSS on record). The purpose of this thread is to post your shoes where S40 is having difficulty (hybrid shoes) so I can analyze it and at the same time test it with my S40M. As of today, I have no idea what shoes will beat my S40M because I haven’t lose yet using my modifications. I always test system/s or modifications on actual live games because my emotion, patience, discipline and actual decision-making are present unlike computer-based testing where none of the above is present. I am making this initiative while we are still waiting for the release of S40A and to help new members understand the simplicity of S40 and how to beat the casinos on a consistent basis. In the event I completed my actual 200 live games before the release of S40A, I will post my S40M for the benefit of all BTC members. BK

Victorino402, For starters, I suggest you chart both the SAP and O/R count until you can tell the shoe by just looking at the toteboard. NO CHARTING AT ALL is easy and hassle-free BUT I DO NOT THINK you can LAST THE WHOLE SHOE WITHOUT DEPLETING YOUR BANKROLL. There are no easy shortcuts in beating the casinos. Everything thought here is the closest we got in beating them. Always consult your O/R count for changes on the shoe trend. Look for consistency. A decreasing (-) OR count tells you to go F2/RD1 while an increasing (+) OR count is S40. When the OR count is neither decreasing nor increasing then go OTB4L. Usually I give up 2-3 losses in a row before switching systems. My progs used are 123 and 345. I start with 123 then when I am hitting my session goal I switch to 345. This is my style of play. I am just sharing it. Hope you get something from it. BK

Hi Sir Ellis! Good day! I am very delighted that the manual of System 40 has reached its completion. Better late than never. However, kindly check sir the "wrong" OR count on Page 11 of the manual. New members might get confused. FYI only. More power and thank you sir for giving us another POWERFUL TOOL in Beating The Casinos. BK

Hi Sir Keith! FYI sir. The OR count on page 11 of the manual is WRONG. New members might get confused. Anyways, the System 40 Manual is a very POWERFUL TOOL at the casino. Congrats! BK

I agree with you Master Ellis. Actually I encountered this "non random weird shoe" tonight (or was it the casino manager?). I attracted a lot of attention playing this shoe that the casino manager stepped in and ended the shoe at Play 63. Just like that! Finished! Done! Next table please! The bad thing about this, we, players, saw that there were still cards to be dealt. Is this legal? Hmmmnnn... At Play 63 I was up +32. So why did I attract so much attention? I was betting the MAXIMUM BET allowed! They even forbid me to shoot my table winnings using my camera phone! Is this really legal? Dammmnnn.....! Well, lesson learned. I will post this "non-random weird shoe" to prove the randomness of cards. I will just take a nap because I'm too tired after a day's work at the casino. Btw, any movement on this thread Sir Ellis? Regards, BK