JimU

Hi Keith, All well stated! (...except your Ellis bashing, don't forget he created all/most of those approaches). ( no he didn't they were al created and fed to him By Ron Charlie and myself when we were playing Atlantic City and feeding him information about the game) It's quite a list of approaches, but having gone though them all, they do all add up to gestalt about the game that provides experience to help one play well. Please leave most of the meat of the posts in place, there are lots of diamonds and gold dust scattered among them, some may find useful info where others wouldn't, so please don't take a heavy hand to the existing threads. Regards, Jim