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DarkVale, Betphoenix is "ex" (expensive?) to withdraw? You get one free check a month. How much are you paying?

You could call them and ask them but seeing as how most people won't do that, I went in just now and found out that three hands is the maximum to sit out. As I rarely sit out that many hands, I had to experiment tonight to make sure. Missed two nice wagers too. I don't know how many you can sit out on the "free" side, but I would assume it's the same. You owe me! Z

jsintl, i have also used the free montly withdraw from betphoenix. Its too bad I can't do it more often!

I remember reading that first message when I first logged on here and wondering what all the fuss was about. After being in the baccarat game now for awhile, I think I see why you posted it up! Congrats on the two year run and here's hoping it will continue for you. sunil

Has anyone played there since this original posting? Does it handle US players OK? .

Seahog, From the looks of it, it looks like your system 40 would have really beat that one up for sure. .

Yep, it looked good for me today too when I logged in this morning.

This is good to know. With all of the negative comments I've been reading about online casinos and actually getting paid, it is good to know that somebody is getting their money out.

I had noticed some very early shoe endings about a week or so ago, but those seem to have subsided for the time being. There was some mention of this also on another of the baccarat boards but I think they've all concluded that it was a temporary type thing. Z

Hi, I just went back in and checked my older posts and test and now I can see them all. Very strange. I can see both of your test messages now. Z

Well, I'm thinking that anyone who posts up a shoe here is showing a winning shoe. What we really need to see is people posting up a really bad, losing shoe where they just got killed in it. Then we can test against that one!

There was a guy in another forum who posted up the following shoe and said he was happy to get +1 out of it. Not quite sure why he added that as this shoe appears to be able to hold itself together long enought for at least a +10 or +15. I tried my own way of playing it and got to +10 with no problems.. Here it is. (Hope I've figured out the posting convention correctly). B211221242111 B11123241122 B12411111125 B41111211111 It looks pretty streaky to me and generally that's usually a good thing, I think.

Well, if I'm ever going to be able to post up a shoe here, I may as well try this test in the graphics section for a starter! Here goes nothing and if any of the public members can see it, then we're home free. It's a photo of the Hong Kong skyline after I had gotten back from a slow boat trip to and from Macau. I didn't have any pictures of Macau as I was inside most of the time anyway! Z Edit......Hmm, when I was composing the message, the graphic showed up in the preview nicely but now that I've saved it, only the pointer/link shows up for the graphic. But I can see it when I click on the link, so at least we've got that going for us.

Is there any "tentative" time of the year that this might take place? Late summer, dead of winter or perhaps some off peak time frame in Las Vegas?

Thanks for posting up those shoes when you get them. I find it very difficult to get live hands from the various baccarat sites. I really can't use the RNG shoe results so picking up a few new shoes here is very appreciated.

OK, I can jump in here I guess. You can add me to the people who do NOT play RNG baccarat for money. I will only play the live online dealer type of casinos on the internet.

I've noticed that it kind of goes in spurts and stops. Somebody will ask a good question here and then a flurry of activity takes place while it gets answered or sorted out but then the public area just seems to die off while everyone either returns to the private area or the public members just stop asking questions! I have noticed quite a few people have posted up here in earlier threads in what I can only think would be during their public days as their name now shows them as private members. It's still a good idea to check in every day, at least for me!

Well, that's an odd thing. Trying to find a bank of live shoes is difficult to say the least. I've gleaned a bunch of them from this site by going through the threads and pulling out small reports and details from various trip reports. I've also downloaded a bunch of live shoe data from casinovittoriosa.com where they have live dealers and the like. You have to hunt a bit for them, but once you log in, you can get about a month's worth of live dealt hands all in once place. There is also a thread here in the public area where one of the mods has started to post up shoes.

Perhaps I may be reading it wrong. I think he's looking for how many times a run of 3 or more comes up after a sporadic 1. P BBBB PP B PP B PP B PP would be a single time. P BBBB PP B PPP BB PPP B PPPPP would be three times, if I'm reading the message right. If I've got this wrong, I'll go back over those initial 10 shoes and redo the count.

I thnk the original poster said he was looking at 3's and up.

OK, so I took a look at the last 10 shoes in the current pile. Here's what I got for sporadic 1's and what follows. I took any run of three or more after a sporadic one to be a "win". Lose to Win 7-2 10-5 9-4 20-4 5-6 14-5 10-4 13-1 2-4 10-4 If I can get some free time I'll check another batch of 10 or 20 shoes.

No, the attached picture doesn't display. Says I'm 'not authorized' to view these. OK, I can deal with it. Thanks. Z

HI, Also I've noticed that I can't see the attached file but I do see the embedded graphic. Z