TangNangDoaHoa

i have been gone for awhile and almost forgot the existence of this forum cause there are nothing left for me to learn and i was kindda forgot about it. i have beaten the casino every day using my own system(based on NOR). now im hoping to challenge the best NOR players, even if Ellis, the creator NOR to test out between systems. (just for studying purpose only)

thanks Ellis, im still alive

so.............. who has master the NOR? please raise there hand

yess, i won a million dollar lolllllllllllll

place the bet by modes or by systems??

what the heck?? lol, now i got accused of selling Ellis' system?? i had disappeared from BF and BTC and didn't put up any posts for a long time. now am a suspect of doing so lol.

you profited 23 units up with 149 units wagered??, may i ask what was your progression?? cause it sounds pretty dangerous to me. cause if you using OTB4L and you have to wger 149 units to only gain 23+. i dont really think OTB4L was the good system for that shoe. you need to have a second thought about that. causes it's too obviouse because you said you have to wager 149 units if you really pick the right system. it wouldn't let you go through that risk and earn only 23+

TRue or False? you can really know after a number of your winning hands the system will change before they occured and you can switch it right on time??

Hey forum and Ellis, thanks for an appreciation for my system and a visit from everyone. and all questions relating to it will stop right here. from now on let's all stick with NOR. i guess i just got lucky beaten the shoes every single days when using it and there are no such systems. and hey, for players who PM me and offensing my system. they dont need to be angry and call me a liar, i just got lucky everyday that's all.

if you looking a that play #9 you will see, the OR count has a -4 on that. and base on the NOR system and system selection. whenever you hit the high negative number aren't you gonna go with F systems??. and at hand #15 im looking at the SAP count and base on the NOR again. aren't you have to still pick on F system to go again?? and on the NOR system everytime when we have a high 1 and 2 SAP count we'll switch it to S40 and high 2 and 3 will be OTB4L . eventho this shoe has a low 1and 2 it still a S40 because a 3 hasn't come up yet. so you have to keep OTB4L for your best option. For not causing any confusion. i started to play at hand 15 after i've elimination the F2-3 and S40

yes it's S40 because and at hand 15 3s hasn't come out yet, even though 1s and 2s are weak side but you can count it as S40 and eliminate it. and you already eliminate F system because at play 9 you had a -4.

http://postimage.org/image/qzlcz4s6j/ Copy and pasted this to your browser and zoom it in to see better. in that shoe, i only play 40 hands. but this is the full shoe of it. B26511311 P12211231232 B1511121422 P1142

well, i already post a live game sample from baccplay below. if you guys con notice it. the hand 9 on the OR count, the count is -4 and at the hand 15 3 is the culprit and the shoe i still favor F2-3. there is no 3 in a row coming out and weak 1s and 2s. i bet that for all of you, when you guys have ever seen waited for 15 hands and see that kind of shoe. you guys will go ahead and pick F3. but if you really did and play a repeat at play 16 aren't you gonna get 4 lossing bets a row to play 19?? does fear gonna get into you when you begin the shoe in less than 5 minutes and having 4 loosing bets in a row. that hurts. and if im not mistaking, will you guys going to switch the F3 system into S40 mode 2 or the right OTB4L at play 30?? if you really picked S40 then again you had hit 3 lossing bets in a row, if you really pick OTB4L yes you can get away with it for AWHILE because the shoe will change to S40 at play 41 and imagine if you are playing 234 progression like i did on that shoe and you picking F3 and S40 to go with then at play 33 you will end up -21 units. How can i eliminate the bad system so accurate?? because im looking at the OR and the SAP count to determine what to eliminate. The purpose is if something already happened it'll not be happened again. if can realize that i was using the original OTB4L and S40 in this shoe because i only giving a little ideas how i did it but not giving the complete system.This is only to give the picture in your mind so i havn't even used my own iS40 and iOTB4L yet. One thing i have keept secret from you guys that i have discovered the amazing relationship between ELimination and SAP. Ellis has created the Devil(SAP). i had never realized that if i put SAP and Elimination together, SAP will unlock it's potential and it can do more than anyone could imagine. not even i can accurately use the right mode, but i can accuratly use the SAP to change the right system before it's even happened. i know this is very vague because i not specificly showing you guys how i really Eliminate it, Filtering it, Finding the Mode, and when to stop, to start, or to continue the system accurately before it's even happened with SAP. let's say it's a little magic trick inside my sleeves, it'll not be fun to reavel it all. but do not try this method yet, if none of you has learned the complete Elimination. http://postimage.org/image/qzlcz4s6j/ i guess you guys should copy and paste it to the browser.

ofcourse sometimes NOR doesn't work because you know why??. you are using system selection. what NOR does is finding 1 good system. let me tell you this. If you finding 1 good system out of 3 systems your percentage of selecting the correct one is only 33%, and if you are finding 2 good systems out of 3 systems your percentage of picking the right one is only 50% and if you are finding 3 good systems out of 3 systems you percentage will drop back to 33%. then everytime when you start to play using NOR, do you always profiting from it?? but for Elimination if you can eliminate 1 bad system your percentage of picking the other 2 good systems is 50% and if you can eliminate 2 bad systems then you percentage of picking the right system is 100% accurate did i made myself clear to you that system selection will never go over 50%? so why bother finding the good ones when you dont profiting from it??

Hey PapaJoe, dont take it literally. it just ran out of my mouth without thinking. but PapaJoe, Ellis has beaten the game for 30 years with his NOR, but for 30 years, has anyone ever attempted and succesfully evolved the NOR system into a newer different level?? or is just that everyone is thinking inside the box and feel threatened to see something new?? or is just that some of them did have the ideas about the Elimination but they never succesfully developed it. Why?? because they are still keeping the old fashion, they still using the original S40 and OTB4L for their Elimination, does that really work??, difinately not. because one is a good (+) and the other one is a bad (-) if they do that in the casino, it'll be a negative result because why?? a positive multiply a negative will be a nagative answer and that's not we want