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  1. as u said oz and ct the myth of it all is not how safe the 345 is but the jump u have to make from a base bet to get on it.

    as ct said a $25 player winning say 4 or 5 bets is up $100 and feels confident so decides to employ a 345

    their initial bet is $75 to get on the 345 progression and everyone knows it's when u raise your bets you are at the most risk.

    if they lost that bet that's wiped out more than half of their winnings in what was a good session.

    thats psychologically pretty damn hard to deal

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  2. Here is the example shoe posted again showing the pb patterns on top line and then the or and OT patterns below the pb patterns in sync with their occurrence.

    i got this idea from kachatz and his 4d / 5d play where you track multiple variables at the same time looking for opportunities in all.

    i could track oott as well and even Ooottt and they would show opportunities but 3 is enough for now.

    a note that I did not have room to record the last event which is a 1 opposite.

    also I have written the straight and zz events for each line above them and below them on second line which is confusing but I think you will figure it out (mistake which makes it confusing but they are still listed correctly whether under or over the lines)

    if if you look at the 2 and 3 clusters in each line I think you will see the betting opportunities

  3. On 11 June 2017 at 11:21 PM, PurpleInk said:

    Brad

    Thanks for sharing this concept of Prime Baccarat. This is really a novel way of looking at a shoe as it really breaks down the majority of the shoe into 2s and 3s. I'm still looking at applying viable betting constructs and testing it with other shoes.

    What I can't figure out is there appears to me to be extra 2s written in your ot/tb example. The first two occurring after the 4 straight and the 3rd 6zz.

    Thanks

    PurpleInk

     

    Hi purpleink I did check it and don't belive there was errors but I may be wrong - where I feel you may be confused is the counting of zz 2's: ppbbppbb - 2222 - written with zz events is - 2222222

  4. On 11 June 2017 at 9:59 PM, way2fast said:

    This is true.  You can focus on just OTBL and TBL.  Or you could focus on just P or B; or Opposite and Repeat.  In all cases, one of your two choices will win every hand, so it all comes down to what triggers you are using to switch between the two of your choice.

    Brad, what I cannot follow in your examples are the symbols for OTBL and TBL.  For example, the hands marked "OTBL" are not all opposite time before last -- many in fact are TBL. 

    Hi way2fast. Thanks for reading my post and giving your input I do appreciate that.

    While I do agree that every decision is either T or OT sounds like a silly statement because it has to be 1 or the other and the same is also true for PB or OR, I do think T and OT differ because they can be stand alone strategies by themselves and will cover every major bias possible fairly well.

    I don't feel this is the same for PB and OR because if you execute these by themselves they will not cover every possible bias nearly as well IMO.

    The chart u were looking at was actually the shoe recorded as o and t trends so I did not make it clear by posting it underneath the p and b trends.

    so for example start of shoe is b113 so that chart shows it in terms of o and t: TOT

    so I am recording the o and t events in terms of numerical events.

    i could do the same for o and R as well and look for O v T betting opportunities amongst all 3 variables.

    hope you understand better.

    Also interested in ur thoughts on my next posts

  5. Hi Tim,

    I'm not full time yet.

    Probably because I have a lot going on with my business at moment and in the last year so that has really limited the amount of time I have had to practice and play etc

    It is still my goal and I know I will make it just hopefully it will not take until I'm as old as Oz !!!!!!  ha ha ha

    Like I said when I do I will come and see you in Brisbane although I have heard the casino there is not the greatest?

    Apparently its in a historic building or something and they cant modify it so its pretty outdated and small

    I have however played at Jupiters on Gold Coast less than a year ago and I really like it there.

    Crown Perth is also pretty flash now and is good to play at so Im happy at this point to be able to just play there a few times a week

     

  6. Thanks. Ellis posted a method here a few years ago: A simple million dollar system where it used triggers to switch between tbl and otbl.

    The concept was good as always but once again probably where it went wrong was claiming it was a counter to casino orchestration combined with mechanical triggers and a negative progression.

    i believe tbl and otbl is enough to win if you don't use negative progressions or mechanical switches and watch for the clumping of 2's and 3's or the clumping if 4's and 4+'s with 3's.

    then just pick the right times to switch.

    3's are neutral and should be treated as either depending on what they are with

  7. Hey Pando the great thing is that you can reverse the theory and apply it to TBL in which case you will be grouping clumps of 4's and 4+ events into clumps along with 3's that occur with 4's or 4+'s

    2's will clumped separately as they are undesirable and 3's if they occur with 2's are also undesirable

    I suppose it really depends which of the 2 (TBL or OTBL) you prefer as to which may choose to target

    Of course you could choose both and switch but I don't do that I just ignore TBL bias (I know you are opposite in your strategy)

    Of course this may be dependant on the shoes that you play most because you are probably gonna like the bias more if it wins you more!

    Yes I plan to keep this going and explain the strategy more and how it can be put into practise to win.

     

     

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  8. Anyway I think you get the point I see great power in 23 and the fact that 2 and 3 are the first 2 PRIME numbers

    So it got me thinking I've always liked OTBL over anything else and how could I use that to win.

    What I decided was that ZZ's are as important as Straight events and so they should be recorded as well.

    At the same time I should record the OT patterns to see if the trends could also assist.

    I will demonstrate with this shoe which I recently played:

     

    B11311511112321311312111424213211

    So if I was to record the ZZ events along with the straight events it would look like:

    43456223223343325422242233224

    1's at the start and the end have to be assumed that there is an imaginary straight event so you can count them

    Now what I noticed is that 2's and 3's appear in clumps:

    43456 2232233 4 332 54 222 4 223322 4

    3's I consider to be neutral events unless they appear with 2's

     

    Now if I record the OT events of the above shoe:

    TOTOTTOTTTOTTTOTTTTOOOTOOOTOOOTOTOTTOTOTOOTTTOTTOOTTOOOTOTO

    and I was to treat them as I would banker and player:

    T111213143131311112111123122231111

    Then I record the straight and ZZ events on one line as I did above:

    523334233333626223322222236

    And then separate the 2's and 3's:

    5 2333 4 233333 6 2 6 22332222223 6

     

    So now we have 2 variables in the same game grouped into clumps of 2's and 3's:

    43456 2232233 4 332 54 222 4 223322 4

    5 2333 4 233333 6 2 6 22332222223 6

    Now what you may notice above is that the 2's and 3's clumps occur at different times in the shoe.

    2's and 3's are consecutive events so if you are aiming for a 2 in the clump and you miss you only just miss as it will be a 3

    So do you think from the above I could see some betting opportunities?

    More on this later

     

     

     

     

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  9. 2 hours ago, way2fast said:

    In May 2013 Norm posted 60 shoes he played in Vegas over a couple days.  The shoes played were all at MGM, Aria and Red Rock.  If anyone is interested, I have entered those 60 shoes into Stats for Profit.  They are shoe numbers  258,007 through 258,066.

    The frequency of events for these 60 shoes is very close to what you would expect:  1's - 51%;  2's - 26%; 3's - 10%; 4+ - 13%.  Very close to the anticipated distribution of 50%/25%/12%/12%.  Norm absolutely crushed these shoes playing his FTS and MM approach, even though there was no apparent bias across the shoes as a whole.  Never higher than a 2 unit bet, and only betting when there was a well supported reason to do so.   

    Just wondering - did you enter them all manually?

    2 - 3 mins a shoe x 60 = couple of hrs of your time?!

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