I attended the Las Vegas seminar this weekend and was very pleased. I can think of several minor points made by Ellis that each one of which are worth more than the cost of my entire trip. Coincidentally, I returned home this morning at 6:30 AM and as I had a few hours to kill before returning my rental car I proceeded to visit our local spot, the Seminole Hard Rock. I played 3 shoes, including one that was on fresh cards. With the fresh cards I immediately picked up on a pattern of OTB4L, which I had not previously recognized before this weekend. I started betting on the 5th hand, and before I got to 50 hands, I left the shoe at +40 and proceeded directly to the cage, followed by the door. Looking at my previous play history, the pattern that came out would have either killed me completely or left me in a very significant negative position since I play a lot more aggressive than the NOR guidelines for -8 stoploss. Thanks again Ellis and Keith!