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Hahaha, I never realised it, but this is the truth. Good one!

Thanks Kachatz1 for taking the time to write this up. It's a good reality check for all of us. Looking forward to 6-10 as well!

Hey gman, Thanks for your reply. Your observation skills are quite remarkable. At play 48 I finished the two mode bets and I'm up to 15 units. After mode bets I always like to re-think of what system I should be using. I was a bit slow on play 24 to realise that it shouldve been F since the SS was right in my face. The reason why I like to rethink of the strategy is because I'm not a big fan of mode bets. It means that I've lost two or three bets which should have hit.. (Thats just what I think though) so At play 48, after the mode bets were complete, I took it like I just sat down at the table, saw a strong side and started playing F2 again on P side. (It's how I would've played if I saw the tote board at that time) As for the stop loss, I would have pulled out if I reached +10 any point past play 48 I think you're right on how you should play F though, I'm still learning too so you're comments are appreciated. Seems like you're ripping up the casinos in your part of the world Cheers!

Just copied the results onto one of my practice scorecards. I only had an hour and a half to bum in the Casino, found a table that looked alright, sat down and off we went.. Started with S40M2 but wasn't too comfortable with that and then I noticed that there was a SS so I just dove for F2 (16 Players vs 8 Banks and seeing that there was one 3IAR on the weak side, I chose F2) At play 48 I focused on the SS and it played out in my favour. Managed to hit 29 times out of 41 bets with only 3 bet occurring once. Wish these came more often aye.... Anyways, went to see the GF with +25 units. I do hate playing with a time limit in my head though. argh

This thread has been really helpful. Thank you Chief for actively asking questions Benefits us all I haven't been playing for the past few weeks due to the buildup of work after coming back from a 3 week holiday, but after reading this, I'm motivated to hit the Casino tonight!

Thanks for making this thread Ellis as I've always been curious what people did with their winnings. I must say I do own a credit card for several years now, but they are paid off immediately every time I receive the bill before the interest is applied. Never missed a bill. I pretty much use the card on things that I would be paying cash for, but I get rewarded with points. Those points add up for some nice bonuses. I do like the idea of paying off all the debts though, as that seems like the most sensible thing to do. I'd like to stick to my credit cards since I know they will never get anything out of me. For $99 annual fee, I also get a free domestic flight within Australia each year. It's pretty nifty

Welcome Chief! Glad to see another Sydney sider. I've just finished the 55 pages from the NOR+ thread and if you'd like we can discuss what we absorbed from it so it can speed up our learning. Also MVS, thanks for showing me the correct format to lay out shoes. So from what I've gathered from the NOR+ thread (off the top of my head, to see how much I can remember) is that: 1. Most shoes can be handled by OTB4L M3. However, this does not mean you should not apply other methods when the shoe obviously favours something else. (e.g playing F on SS shoes) 2. Changing modes seem to be the trickiest part for most people. Starting with Mode 3, if you lose your third bet (not necessarily the 3unit bet), you should change to mode 2 AFTER the current run. For example, you lose your first, second and third bet, your fourth bet would be OTR and regardless of whether it wins or not, you resume your play (OTB4L). However, since your third bet lost, you are now in mode 2. Mode 2 meaning that after losing two consecutive bets, you bet OTR up to two times. If the first OTR bet wins, bet OTR again. If it loses, change back to OTB4L. Losing your first OTR bet in Mode 2 would mean that you are in the wrong mode, so it's time to switch back to Mode 3. 2-1)Mode 1 is somewhat of an advanced move where you jump to OTR after losing 1 bet. In Nor+, we track the number of occurrences of specific events. For example, if you see a 4iar, note it down. 6iar? Note it down. This is a rough indication on which event is most likely to occur from the information the shoe has given us. If you've tracked 3iar occurring once, but 5iar occurring 4 times, if you lose an OTB4L bet due to a 3iar, you would jump OTR and shoot for a 5iar. Once the run breaks, switch back to OTB4L. You should also note that when tracking these events, you will be tracking ZZ runs and ST runs. If you lose your first bet in your bet progression, jump OTR and aim for the event which occurred most (ZZ 4 times happened most? Aim for that the next time you lose a bet to the start of a ZZ. 5iar happened most? Bet that it'll happen again once you lose a bet to the start of a ST run). If you lose any bet OTR, revert back to Mode 3. Mode 1 should only be used once the player is fully comfortable switching between Mode 2 and Mode 3 and is looking for a riskier play in exchange for more potential gains. Also, Mode 1 should not be considered if there are less 4+s than 3s. 2-1-1) While tracking, if there are an equal amount of occurrences for an event, you should go OTR for the run that happened most recently on your count. I think they were some of the main points that a lot of people got confused over. I may have interpreted it incorrectly, so if any of the masters out there can point out my mistakes, it'd be fantastic! I've only been playing baccarat for 3 weeks or so. I may be the most inexperienced player there is in the forum. hahaha Some issues im facing right now: I seem to suck really bad at table selection. I'd look at a tote board and be like "Wow! Lots of 2s and not that any 1s! OTB4L or F3 would do fine!" As soon as I sit down, icky stuff seems to hit the fan pretty quickly. I seem to win my first bet pretty easily. But then a 1-2-3 bet follows not too far behind. That needs more practicing. Like Oz says, he can do it in a few seconds now. I'm totally jealous. I almost never play System 40. Actually now that I think about it. I've never played S40. Shame on me D: Money management problems then stem from my first issue. Since I don't build up enough units early on to bet confidently, I find myself close to the -8 stop loss count quite early on. Once I get close, I get nervous and sometimes I break the stop loss rule. Sorry Anyways, that's my experiences from my first week of joining BTC. Special thanks to OZ again. Hopefully us Sydney siders can meet up sometime to play! I'm also going to Singapore for a day in mid-July so if Witchy or any of the SG players are happy to meet up. That would be super awesome! International connections united by the goal of taking the house. I likey. Peace! D

Oz! I just put all the stuff you taught me to play. I do feel a bit of pressure when the dealer sees you winning and they start to deal faster than I can put my bet down. Lucky Ellis' trick for otb4l helped! Bet opposite when repeated and repeat when opposite! I saw a table starting with B4222 so I sat down and started playing otb4l mode 3.. The shoe was B42222113111221242121212311332132 the OR count didn't move much so I could bet with confidence.. although I started at play 11 and started getting scared because of the Zzz but I held in there and came out with 16units! I'm so happy I'm outside the casino holding my score cards and poking it into my phone haha Can't wait till we beat the Aussie casinos together! D

Hi all, Another bloke from down under has decided to make the investment into NOR baccarat! (can't wait for NOR Roulette as well) Just wanted to say Hi to everyone as you all are so friendly and helpful. Especially to Oz, who has been giving me heaps of pointers in private messages... so to me he is like a teacher and father. He has given me so many tips and his personal play styles that I already feel like I've made my subscription money back. I want to take this post to thank him for his help so far and I will be bugging you much more in the future! Can't wait for a group trip to the Casino! But for now I think I will get my basics down first. It's my first day so getting used to all this jargon and conditional methods is quite a headache. Just out of curiosity as well, what do you guys do with your winnings? Do you reinvest it into bigger bet units, spend it on yourself or stash it up? Anyways, glad to be part of the family and my thanks in advance for any advice/teachings that I will receive from all of you. Peace! D