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As per the advice of many on the forum I've been taking time to play through lots of practice shoes. I've been drilling on multiple shoes with each system played individually (just so I can get a sense of how it behaves "in the wild"), and I have been playing with the rules posted here (always play highest count system). Through the experience of playing about 25 practice shoes with the full rules, it is clear that S40M1 has the lowest draw-down characteristics of all the systems. I never got below -7, and only twice went below -5. However in all shoes by playing on I was able to either net a small net positive or get back to 0. I've noticed empirically that the range the method traverses is about five units or so. So I have a couple questions and a suggestion for play method: Question 1: Why start the shoe with BaS40 when BaS40M1 will limit your losses "in the blind" more effectively? Question 2: Why not carry your counts forward to the next game? They should end up about even over a large number of plays, and biases that develop over the course of several shoes may be useful to know about. Suggestion: Play for a net +5. That means if you hit -3, only play for +2. If you hit -7, only play for -2 (or 0 if you are feeling lucky). Look forward to your thoughts!

It looks right to me - at least that is how I have been practicing

I've been experimenting with a way to utilize SAP and system selection, and I'm interested in your thoughts. Watch the three main system counts (1 & 2, 2 & 3, 1 & 4) closely. The base system is whatever two counts are highest (e.g. 1s and 2s high = BaS40, 2s and 3s high = BaOTBL). Whenever the sum of two counts is 1/2 the sum of the other counts, switch to that system until you lose a bet and the ratio is back under 1/2 the other counts - when this happens, switch back to base system. When you hit +5, you can continue to play but you reset all counts to zero and play as though it were a new shoe (I think this means you would not continue to play if you were already past play 30 or so) What do you think?

I played at the Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh - they have three mini-bac tables. Generally a good scene but the cards there actually seem a bit tougher than what I've played in Vegas for whatever reason.

I took MDB to the casino last night and had mixed success. I ended up down, but that was mostly due to my becoming distracted and making a couple blatant play errors. Nevertheless, I think this method has promise and I am wondering what others who have played this in-casino have to say about it? Does it work as well as it seems to?

I'm planning to purchase the video as well

Hello all, As a new player I am just starting to accumulate experience with the methods discussed here. This site is full of wonderful information! Although I am still learning the systems/methods, I am up substantially in live casino play based on what I've learned here... even though I'm still making mistakes. To expand on my experience I decided to try to play an online casino that uses a RNG. Even though I saw the warnings here to not play random number generated (RNG) online casinos, I decided to try and see what happened. This is my experience: I played the 4D NOR method by selecting the system that seemed best based on the last six hands. I did not do any net betting, but followed a u1d1 progression. I played over 1,200 hands real money at Bovada to gather enough data to make a reasonable conclusion. Universally when the wager was below $10 I could win about 53% of hands. When the wager escalated to over $10 (by either base-bet or progression), I could not hit higher than a 30% win rate. I am certain that this is not because of my play, but it may be because the outcome of each hand may be determined at runtime (not predetermined like it would be in a shoe of cards). The results are that I can confirm the prior advice of others to NOT play RNG baccarat. I had a series of very unlikely events just when I started to increase my wagers, including one run where for five times in a row the first two cards of the opposing hand were zero and third card was a 9. I've never seen this happen in a casino. The online play doesn't have any concept of a "shoe" so the shoe report below is in 72-hand batches for convenience. I caution against seeing the shoes and thinking that they can be beaten by playing them back after the fact... as mentioned earlier I have a feeling that the outcome of each hand was related to the running profit-margin of the RNG algorithm rather than the pre-determined ordering of a shuffle. B11112113111112 B431321113211 B441162211223 B7132132 P423321113 B41112218 B1121121121 B4411111313 B2231211151 B341221511 B211135 Happily my land based winnings handily cover the RNG online experiment. It wasn't all a waste. I've learned something and gotten more practice with the various 4D methods. I would welcome the experience of others to confirm or deny my report.

Thanks for the great information MVS. I'm relatively new to the forums but quickly absorbing the material. The appeal of something like BP is that I can practice my methodology without the crowds in a way that is realistic to live casino play. My questions is: In the BP baccarat rules they indicate that the deck is reshuffled on jokers. In your experience how many times is the shoe reshuffled during typical play on BP? Thanks!