Hi this is my first post ever in this forum. Hi everyone! A little info about me: After 2 weeks of joining and investing in the NOR manual, I was able to earn my investment and a little more with only 4 casino visits. The first casino visit I just paper gambled to see how I did. I had a lot of fear and anxiety until I started to see the biases. So that brings me to learn 4D. I studied the lingo and did multiple searches in this forum to understand. I made many mistakes yesterday when using 4D counting at the casino. I wasn't able to keep up, I made mistakes on the count and it was the first time I exited a casino a loser. Then today I was able to keep up and I doubled my bank roll because I tracked the shoe biases and saw a lot of counts being "in Jail". I see it very clearly with the 4D count! Now I am confident with table selecting and using NOR with 4D counting! Thanks Ellis!