BaccaratBlake

Why do you guys get so defensive and make personal attacks? I didn’t say that the stuff had no value. It has value. How much is arguable. Play what you want. Charting is fine - to a point. I chart. I’m just saying that 4D is unnecessarily complicated. What was wrong with NOR, ADOT, S40, Twister, etc., etc? Nothing? Well what’s the point of 4D then?

Don't be fooled by Davis' NONSENSE! Davis again trying to make excuses why his systems fail! He pulls this casino orchestration to make you lose every few years. Same old tricks.Reason the take is so much higher than the 1.1% juice is real simple. People lose more hands than win frequently. This necessitates raising ones bet. Now they get into a death spiral where they got to make a big bet to get back. Then they get scared and either try to get back with small bets which is impossible OR run out of risk money (bankroll). Guarantee if you flat bet every hand you will lose EXACTLY the house edge and no more! IOW you will win about 50% of your hands. Want to prove it even anecdotally? Take any bet selection (even flipping a coin) and go through all your shoes flat bet. After even just a few hundred shoes you will see that you have won just about half of your bets. :-) It isn't complicated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Davis needs to make it more and more complicated!

Stop pretending your stuff is that valuable!!! ???Thief??? A friend never gave you a CD or book to read? You’re being ridiculous. But what else is new? No worries Davis, I play my own way and collect systems for fun. I have no interest in disseminating your stuff. I seldom even bother to do more than skim over them. My point was not about 4D but since you bring it up. This is one of the worst you have ever conjured up. Why? It is unnecessarily complicated. The casinos let us have paper and pencil for a reason. Many even post the popular charting Roads on a screen. Here is why in a nutshell: NO AMOUNT OF CHARTING WLL ALLOW THE PUNTER TO PREDICT MORE WINS THAN LOSSES! Of course it is best to have a strategy (bet placement and money management) but wasting your time charting 8 columns is just about the dumbest thing you ever came up with – next to “Twister†and “Anti-Twister.†Those were super dumb. Don’t get me wrong. There is some value in ALL strategies. It’s a free country and you have every right to sell system after system and the consumers can buy them or not. Makes no never mind to me. I find it all very humorous.

PS. I have all these systems and others as well. Sorry I didn't pay for them. Why would I?

??? ?? I have played thousands, literally thousands of live shoes and win. The point I am making is that there is no holy grail. IOW no one way to follow a bet selection system and/or a bet progression method such as U1D2M2 or any other progression and win. Bet selection is nearly meaningless. I can win at Baccarat by simply flipping a coin on each decision. Doesn't matter. It's a betting and money management game. NOR, 4D, etc. nothing wrong with them if you like them. It's good to have structure in the game to follow so you don't go crazy "chasing your tail." But one played by the rules is not superior to the other.Once more. There is no holy grail as some on the private forum have suggest from time to time.

. . . there is no holy grail. Let's get over this right now - logically. This should be obvious to everyone but being human we always want that magic formula. First: a holy grail has no need to not bet due to a stop loss or stop win. A holy grail IS a holy grail because it can predict when a bet will win more times than not. So the only reason to not bet is due to our predictive criteria not being met. So we either have a known advantage bet or not. Doesn't matter how many times we lose that bet because eventually we will win more bets than lose AND pay the house juice. So as soon as we see an arbitrary unit stop loss/win we know this falls under the auspices of MM, not advantage betting. Second: holy grail has no need to do more than flat bet since we will win more hands than lose and any bet increase will, overtime, produce the same percentage win as per the average bet size of all cumulative hands. Of course we could increase bet anytime we want in an attempt to increase shoe win rate. But that will require additional bankroll and the bankroll would be calculated to the ABS to eliminate risk of ruin. So these guys in the private forum who say that they have a holy grail based on the 4D stuff are putting you guys on.