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  1. When I first joined BTC in June of 2014 and started reading and reading throughout the forum certain names would

    come up regarding some of the experienced players.. Norm (Rip), PapaJoe, OZ, Wolfat, Kevin, Way2fast and the list goes

    on that maybe just one day everyone would come together again and it's happening. I for one are very thankful for all the

    wisdom you have provided to help all the other players through your experience playing.. I am truly great full and I am sure

    everything else.. THANK YOU !!

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  2. Hi,

     OZ,CT70, PapaJoe, Brad, Wolfat, Way2fast,

     

    I am in complete amazement. I was not expecting this perfect storm. I knew one day in my dreams this would happen all  of

    you coming together. Oz I want to first off thank you for all the incredible advice that is priceless you have given. I know you have mentioned

    many times you are not a teacher and I appreciate and everyone here really does. Papa Joe thank you for your great advice. CT70 I hope you are

    taking the casino " You know which ones " to the cleaners with all your winnings. Way2fast great pic of those beautiful looking chips from Vegas you posted awhile back.

    Brad it never seems to amaze me with your contributions. You are always helpful. Wolfat I hope all is well. 

     

    I know we never stop learning but one thing for sure I can tell you its ALWAYS a pleasure learning from more experienced players because to win

    a million bucks from a couple hundred dollars is a huge accomplishment because most players you see at the casinos are constantly pulling

    money out of there wallets. Just like OZ,Papajoe,Way2fast had mentors when they first started playing.. You all are our mentors and we appreciate

    every piece of advice you give us. 

     

    Thank you !!!

     

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  3. I think what Brad is trying to say is there is a set of rules for MDB+ that Way2fast posted however is there more modifications then

    just going by those rules. Meaning if you see the shoe coming out a certain way you will not bet on certain triggers. His experience play

    strictly by the rules have not been to favorable for him. I understand what he is saying. I also know that the best players on this forum

    are not playing strictly by the rules. They have taken things from the forum and modified them to were it wins consistently or more wins

    then losses. Also I think he is asking what is a good starting bank roll, how many losing progressions average per how many shoes played. Example

    played 10 shoes and two shoes lost progression.. These are things to contribute if you are a successful player to help other players become better players.

    P.S. Hey Kevin whats up buddy.. I hope all is well. Still practicing the 4d..

  4. @kachatz1

    I want to take the time to tell all of you how much Kevin cares about each and every members success. He is one of the very

    talented players here and have been playing for quite some time. I can not begin to express how much help he has given and willing to

    help. Like he said are you going to give back what was given to you or KEEP IT A SECRET !!.. Listen everyone at one point in time

    joined this forum and had access to the tools just like everyone else. We are all here to help each other out to be the best we can be.

    Way2fast has been very kind to give out his modified terms of how he plays MDB+ , Kevin has been kind enough to help out with his

    way of playing. I know some of the best players have modified ways of playing that is making them consistent winners and that's the key.

    Way2fast, Kevin, Nick, Steven, Keith, Ellis, FrontAl I want to thank all of you of what you have given.. Thanks a million

    P.S. Don't let me forget about NORM..Even know I never had the chance to meet him I know

    he was very helpful as well.. Papajoe to from this posts..

    Visit the Paris, or even Venetian, here in LV and you will gaze skyward towards blue sky and white clouds

    Not so much at the Gold Coast, but that's where I played this am...

    Wanted to give all the newbies a " quick grab" at success, so I played the simplistic OTBL/O/R system I dragged out of the " systems bone pile " the other day, and commented about here on the forum

    People, Peeps, perps seem to LUV the Numbers so here goes..

    When I started, only 7 tables in play...when I left the casino, 13

    All of this just randomly walking around and around the circle of tables, but with the knowledge you can make just one bet and go the next table ( or skip a few tables if you want)

    Bets FOR an OTBL result, after the last hand resulted in OTBL result

    - won 48, lost 29

    Bets FOR an Opposite result, after the the previous hand resulted in an Opposite to the prior hand ( but was not an OTBL result )

    - won 14, lost 8

    Bets FOR a REPEAT result, after the previous hand resulted in a REPEAT of the prior hand ( but was not an OTBL result)

    - won 19, lost 7

    Started with $500, left after commission, tips, etc. with a WIN of +$798.00 , playing FLAT BET $25, more than I started with, in less than 2 hours...no progressions, just flat betting...

    I know for all you Baccarat gold-diggers, this may not floatURboat

    But almost 160% ROI?

    In less than two hours?

    > $350 ( cash)per hour, never sitting down?

    You want fast-and-dirty?

    Here you go.

    You got fast-and-dirty.

    Any newbie sitting on the fence, pay the man, before the man goes away...

    His name is Ellis.

    He taught me about TABLE SELECTION.

    I took it to heart, practiced it, and now...many years later...the results.

    Sign Up.

    While you still can.

    (Or, bet FUTURES based on the GREEK THING, and you just might break the bank that's not already broken...)

    Psst.... Now that's gambling....

  5. Congratulations Buddy !! It's always a pleasure to learn from the BEST !!

    Making MDB+ all inclusive is not my goal or intent. I do agree with you that some shoes are not as good for MDB+. I just haven't seen clear evidence, on the tables, that the bad MDB+ shoes are those that are more biased. Yes, I DO agree with your logic -- but when I look at the MDB+ shoes where I have lost, some have a strong bias, but at least half of them exhibit very little bias. Thankfully, that population of shoes to examine is quite low. Lol.

    I am finding it is very possible to play MDB+ and NOR in the same shoe, provided you use strategic strikes with NOR. In order to have a good MDB+ shoe there must first be some bias to set up the bets. MDB+ can still be successful even with biased shoes -- the delay helps, and you might even want to sometimes delay two times.

    Last night I played a shoe at Caesars -- it was the same large bac table where Ellis experienced the infamous "no 2s" shoe in the crawl last summer. I sat down at hand 27 with SAP counts of 5 6 12 4. I started playing OTBL while noting MDB signals. The first couple signals I delayed 1 time because the shoes bias to 2s and 3s got even stronger. One signal I delayed twice. Then I started to bet the MDB signals because the bias was getting too out of whack. In this highly biased shoe, I won 6 units with MDB+ and won 12 units playing short sequences of OTBL and S40. The poor guy from South America at the other end of the table had a 400k credit line -- and was losing hand after hand at 25k each. Most hands he and I were flipping the cards, and it was not pretty for him. No one seems to know OTBL, and then when I would make a very large bet that seems to go against what everyone at the table is expecting (those would be the MDB bets), and I win every one of them. Thanks for everything Ellis!

  6. Hi Ellis,

    Take your time !! Your health is the most important thing and everyone on this forum knows you

    have been dealing with a lot with your health. All of us are very great full for the contributions you have made

    and in return have helped numerous people make more money now then they ever have. Hopefully we can get some

    experienced players, FrontAL,way2fast,OZ,papajoe, papanomike to shed some light on this to fine tune this. I know all

    of them each have there own modified way of playing and its working consistently. Maybe they can give some pointers

    for the other members who are trying to move up the latter. way2fast has already given some pointers as to how he plays MDB+

    and modified triggers he looks for before he bets. Hope you get well soon !!

  7. Hi FrontAl,

    I was thinking what about instead of betting opposites versus repeats we bet TB4L and OTB4L and only

    switch to after 2 loses in a row. The simple system does work on any shoe but were the problem lies is the switching

    back and forth right after each other and being tied into a progression. Maybe if we use those two instead of OvR it may

    have better results.. Thanks

  8. Hi Way2fast,

    What if we do a SAP count and wait until the 15-20th play to make sure

    that the culprit is the least common event then strike it? Maybe that would

    avoid just blindly going in and playing from game start. I know a shoe can

    turn at anytime but at least we can safely say there is no culprits at this time

    lets jump in. I am still trying to figure all this out myself so I make sure

    I am doing things the right way. I believe the BIGGEST mistake someone can

    make is thinking you are doing things right when you are doing it wrong because

    you were misinterpreting the instructions.

    P.S. Keith I sent you a pm regarding tomorrow seminar if you can

    take a look at your messages.. Thanks

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