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I'am not involving the late norm here, nor have I use his name in the past. I respect his memory.

NOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF STORY I WANT TO READ!

is that a sign of a guy with a high IQ? outright STUPID! it's just a waste of time arguing with a stubborn brain-dead tub of shit.I was the first one to established that ANB already LOSES

you mean oz, toasted ytoasted your brains out trying out ANB, I was there from Monday-Wednesday, the whole day,they didn't show their asses.well,maybe dean (tuesday midnight) in his ragetty outfit and a couple of top gun cohorts (hair gone from figuring out ANB) of ellis.Besides, why would Ellis stay up late night? well as soon as dean showed up I cashed out with my winnings and never bother to witnessed ANB! One more thing, Sunday why play stadium baccarat Sunday at palazzo with ANB? Are you embarrassed that ANB didn't worked? where's proof of your winning scorecards?

thanks, ozzi/Brad for your analysis of the Real-time shoe, I will so thru them and like the rationale behind each play I note that you don't play every play & playing it safe instead. W2F are you suggesting I avoid playing at RED hawk? WHY? I figured with the many BTC members here,(over the years of operation) at least there must be a BTC PRO baccarat player lurking around the corner.It maybe at the middle of NOWHERE but the place is jam-packed during the weekends.

Hi ozzi, just a couple of guys. Makes me wonder? (LEDZEP) why just a couple and not 7! Not even Dean or carlos was present that day..Would be interesting to see but I mentioned his name during the debate that he's betting $500 base bets (you think ozzi i didn't mention that) That's 2 gran at least (-4 LOSS). the most that I saw during my whole baccarat career was 1gran-2gran lose in a single bet and left.I too did that and move alone was stupid that's why I argued with them on this last shoe alone! I see carlos aka.dragonslayer maybe responding but I don't want to spend my time looking at their responses.I have yet to see W2F as an analogy to this but winning instead! incidentally, maybe one of you guys could drop by may 7- 11 and see you in action in vegas but not to attend the ANB seminar of course.Just made that flight to vegas by mistake when I decided not to attend instead. maybe my trip would be WORTHWhILE & EDUCATIONAL AS WELL with one of you. thanks

Thanks for the input W2F, Had I not attended the MvD seminar, I wouldn't discover this vicious cycle at all.You said it, total waste of time and money! When Ellis confirmed that there will be 7 attendees coming, fine, then I decided to come but there were only a couple of guys, one of your guys Sam zhang i guess and a craig haltermann. Man, I don't know whether Ellis was working for the casino or suffering from memory loss but it was the complete opposite of the image he portrayed in the CFC forum.when he played REAL-TIME THERE. (flamingo, Venetian etc..) and losed ! I Don't know how he recovered his losses and claimed MvD was a success? No wonder SAM Zhang wasn't betting the whole day,You can ask Mr.Zhang, he didn't even warn me of the danger that will come soon! I losed too,but I recovered not following ellis and did it on my own based on my past baccarat experience! I don't want to relay the BAD experience I had, and when one of your BTC members was asking how the MvD seminar went? There was no immediate answer on the January 2017 CFC public forum, even if there was, it was LIES! But I didn't expose Ellis yet until this shoe I presented to him! Hence, my decision to transfer here! Hopefully, the viciousness ends here! I play at RED hawk casino in Pleasantville CA . Do you or any of the BTC members play here would like to meet one of your guys play and see how they conquer these weird.erratic shoes.thanks

Thanks for critique my REAL-time shoe Ozzi /brad .I really don't know how to approach this kind of shoe coz it's a mixture of different systems.If OTB4L probably would be stopped out by 1's with the modes but I never used any modes I used it once.up to negative 3 prog but at that time I was winning and then wham! when I encountered a repeat I noticed my winnings from OTB4L were slowly diminishing so I quit 8 units. it went to as high as 16 units. I think when the casino notices you winning in the first shoe, coz I suspect that the pit boss always jot down your winnings at what play # so that the next shoe.you won't have any chance of winning again coz they will prepare another shoe which is the nemesis from the first shoe you have already won before> It would be interesting to see your approach and method (play by play) on how you tackle this kind of mixture of systems in one partial shoe ozzi. I note also that you have minimized losses but sizable wins.but to you it's just a piece of cake. I usually flat-bet and don't use any progressions at all.I don't like the rollercoaster feel of a negative prog at all! I usually double my flat bet, triple even quadruple if I feel I'm in a run but not when I play OTB4L. maybe terrible two's side by side, S40,TB4L but I use the zap count as my guide. So, Gentlemen, that's my style of play, I wish I could change it for the better coz I like to emulate what you guys are doing (winning one table to the next table) I'm sure there are CFC members here That know the latest news that I somehow pissed off ellis and Larry over my argument as to why " would you continue on betting at a -8 score when we are supposed to cap our losses at -4 using (ANB approach). Ellis claims that ANB can wither the storm even at -12. That's when I draw the line and said to myself this is OUTRIGHT stupid! For now, I'm still there and I could still log in Ozzi , I'm not banned yet. I could see several cohorts to the rescue supporting Ellis against me ALONE crusader who only wants to unravel the mystery of baccarat!

Here is the real-time shoe that we've been debating with ellis latest creation ANB! but what's your take on it and maybe the Pro's can comment as well; thanks P231111211321267 just 34 hands

Would you suggest that to fix this dilemma,Brad, maybe I should wait for the OBVIOUS, easy tables to come and eventually it will come.no matter how long it takes!! Since this is a 50-50 game.Or, an imbalance in the frequency of events.(more bias events) and that's where you come in.But I have to practice PATIENCE THOUGH all the while tracking these in your ZAP counts. But on the other hand, if you wait too long, just when you come in, the tide changes!!wham! PROBABLY NOT WAIT THAT LONG! not long and not early either

Hi gang, dani rose here.my situation is similar to Big chips but I guess he's been around quite longer than me, joteStarted playing baccarat Mid 90's but back then was worse compared today where I could win some and lose some. I noticed that whenever I win, these pit boss/dealer especially a substantial amount the pit boss would jot down your winnings and i would stare at them and he would look away and I was thinking the next play or shoe I bet ,I will then lose! So that if I Win a shoe even if it's small win I just totally stop and quit for the day so that I would not GIVE BACK MY WINNINGS BUT THAT IS NOT THE BEST STRATEGY OVERALL! If I could just go from 1 table to the next and win consistently like you THE PROFESSIONALS can do , then my baccarat career would take off from there! I seem to be stuck in the mud here. So in my case, I'm just content with small winnings but even that small on a regular basis this dealer would be pissed off and I would hear some of them. "there he runs off! but I don't care AS long as I WIN ON A REGULAR 1 TIME BASIS but that's just it! ANY ADVICE/STRATEGY TO IMPROVE OR TO PISSED OFF more THE DEALER/PITBOSS WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.Thanks a lot