That's a great idea Steve:) Let me be the first to introduce myself. Hi guys, this is Mark here from Singapore. I've been a NOR / MDB member since the beginning of October. After studying and practicing online for a couple of weeks, I finally hit the casinos last weekend. My first 2 trips were not good. I hit my stop loss of -8 units and just hung around to observe for a few hours. What I noticed was that shoes were all over the place with no clear pattern. A shoe usually changes bias at least once or twice (about 75% of the time) and it can go from neutral to streaky then back to neutral. Or after a streak it turns choppy and vice versa. It seems like its random but MDB+ doesn't really work as well as it should. Maybe because it is not exactly pre-shuffled cards like in Vegas. Here's how it works in RWS for the $25 No Touch tables. The cards come in a bundle. They are 8-decks, orange and blue. They alternate the decks after each shoe ends. When the blue deck finishes, they will retrieve the orange deck from the shuffle machine to use for the next shoe and then recycle the blue deck back into the machine. This cycle continues throughout the whole day until they change the cards around 6 am every morning. Before every shoe starts, the dealer will take the first card out and burn the next few cards in the shoe according to the face value of the first card. E.g If the first card he draws is a 9, he will remove the next 9 cards and burn them before even dealing the first hand. I see them do this even for the min $200 Touch tables. Question for Ellis and the more experienced guys to answer, have you encountered this kinda card prep before? How does this affect the bias of the shoe and the way we should approach it? If the shoe starts off every morning designer pre-shuffled, but is recycled throughout the whole day and also subjected to the random first card burn procedure, does it partially negate the purpose and effectiveness of having designer pre-shuffled shoes in the first place? Earlier on when I said MDB+ doesn't seem to be as effective here as compared with the feedback from the other parts of the forum. That's because I've seen quite a few instances of 5+, 6+, 7+ of a kind without a neighbouring event. This mostly happens with 2s and 3s. I have been victim to some of them. Just last night I saw a 10+ of a kind, 10 2+s without a 1 between. No doubt these situations happen the in the minority, but it is a significant minority. About 20-30% of the time, according to my rough estimation. So in this kind of environment, what should the NOR / MDB player do? Hope to have some advice and ideas from Professor Ellis and the veterans, and also those in Singapore and Malaysia. Some ideas I thought of was to be way more selective, maybe start MDB+ only when we have a trigger of 3+ and 4+ of a kind instead of 2+. What I also found useful from my observations is to bet that the shoe will change bias. If it starts out Streaky and have very few 1s as Least Common event in the first 20-30 hands, towards the middle and second half of the shoe it tends to turn choppy for 10 to 20 hands. And vice versa too. If you catch that right, you can get 10+ units quite easily. I managed to do just that and made 30 units last night. Some good news at last! All said though, I'm still very green and these are my observations after 3 visits to RWS singapore. Hope other fellow NOR / MDB members could share their experiences and observations as well. Especially those in Singapore and Asia pacific!