mceight8

Not familiar with RNG - I looked it up so it seems to be related to the random electronic games. This was a table at Harrahs. But I just started playing some "stadium" games computer driven, not dealer and I beat the 3 machines I played playing only M2...there were no 3ir so I made it through.

Thanks...good to be back. I played one hand last night at AC. Hit dragon along with paid banker bet. They have quite a few new bonuses out there. If I hit my goal quickly I am out. Looking forward to applying some different techniques. MC8

I live here and play in AC almost daily. How can I get to this class or do I need a premium account?? I have bee part of this site for a while now. Thanks.... MC8

Yeh, i beat every shoe i had where i played then. But as I said, after i got home. As i said ihave to start the shoe most of the time. That means you don't know what nor strategy to apply. I started with s40 and lost. If i had started/knew with OTB4l i would have cleared 20 units on my first 2 shoes. So no, it does beat every shoe encounter d. Just that its exiting to see something work consistently in a place designed to take your mony.

Hey, I myself have not mastered these systems yet. Been at it a few months. I lost at Borgata about week/half ago and have been taking a break. In many of my cases I am forced to start shoes which is kind of discouraged by NOR and leaves you guessing. NOR like to see some patterns show up and your OR count to be established. After getting home and applying the rules without pressure, NOR beats every shoe I had, of course playing only the system of NOR. I also wrote down shoes on both sides of me. Even more interesting is NetBetting which really did not get until about this week, beats everyshoe I had/saw hands down. Its tedious to get used to. I actually only net bet the "net" and not both sides as is done here. At home its ok to bet both sides but in the casino it looks corny, even though, you are winning. Only thing is long streaks with NB and that can be fixed by just switching if the shoe looks streaky to an F system. Bank roll depends. We have $15 tables which are great starters. Resorts in Atlantic City even has $10 tables. But to play serious, need to be at $25 or more. Good luck

Wow. I am here right now. BUT, i have to go to resorts to see a friend. I just walked through the pit. I am wearing a hat with red triangle. I am also discrete. If you want to play without interference. I can just watch. I wi back in about hour or more. I don't play Ceasars anyway. Mike

Are you around this weekend? I maybe out tonight. Trop or balley. I could watch you play if you are around. I can be at a distance if needed. I can't play hl yet. Mk

I attched a blank run from Ballys. I added the OR count to the third column. What I am hoping is to get at least S40, F, OTB4L runs for this. I started an S40 run but got stuck on how to handle the OTR situations. In fact thats what we really only need to know, how to handle these losses correctly. for my S40 run starting at play 2 I bet opposites S40M3: Bet ChipCount 1 -1 2 -3 3 0 1 -1 2 -3 3 -6 I stopped here cause I think normally we would just walk. But I would like to see if this is the correct way to play S40M3 for this... If anyone with experience could give me an OTB4L run to help with handling any losses would be nice. I wil do this myself and could compare how I am applying the NOR strategy... Thanks for any who help M

I dont think I aswered this... There are 2 HL rooms. I never go into the one where the crap table is. That has roulette, craps and mostly BJ tables. The one I was referring to is the Asian pit which would be the one closest to the doors to the boardwalk. And I will not say that most cards are for sure pre-shuffled. I did find one table at Tropicana that is actually hand shuffled, no shuffler machine. Its virtually immpossible to get on that table. high rollers were literally betting once every 5 - 10 minutes. They just sit there and count their chips. Not sure if you play alone but I would not mind watching if your around... MK

I am in AC a lot. I have stayed in both Caesar and Harrahs... Your best rooms are Borgata. It was the Revel. Caezars has better rooms than Harrahs. Harrahs has the Pool and thats about it...I really dont play there much cause I dont get 'lucky'. Caezars and Ballys are connected so you dont need to go outside to explore both. Its now very cold here ~20deg. Also Caesars in the first casino you encounter since Trump Plaza is now closed. You are 1 block away from the outlet malls to keep your day busy. Also Caesars in connected to the Ocean 1 mall and you should eat at Continental (3rd floor) as they are pretty good. That mall on third floor also has a great place to overlook the ocean. You will see what I mean...so Caesars in the place. The bac tables are in the Asian pit and minimums start at $25 but are usually 100 Friday - Sunday.

Ok well then I am stuck....guess I should have just joined MDB. After all the NOR manual is from 2011, you think it would have been updated since with all the "new" ideas in last couple years. I wont be joining MDB if I cant get the basic NOR working... I am sure throughout these threads there are some sample plays I can find and work with. I can say for sure a number of shoes I watched in AC (full tables) would have fell hard to what the basic manual said. All Bac tables in AC are pre-shuffled cards.

I know this site has lots of posts but I am trying find sample shoe runs for OTB4L, F, S40 and 4D. I found one on TB4L which was helpful. I am more of a hands on type and reading so many posts can get tiring. Just post links to these sample runs here. I really want to know how others handle OTR and progressions. Thanks in advance

Yes all HL tables were $100 min. I was a very mean when I approached with my few green/black chips. my 15 no comm tbl was rough. I will have to go through each casino to get the details of each area but there all basically the same. Borgata has the most. Probably followed by Ballys. Borgata has $20 min tbls since they have 20 unit chips. Weekends expect most HL tbles to be reserved.

ok... Saturdays are not easy for Bac. Hard to get tables. Most are reserved for very high rollers. I try NOR a number of times but was getting killed. Still need to understand OTR for the various approaches. I did OTB4L to start and was on a small run but got killed mid-shoe by straight runs that switched back and forth and exactly the wrong time. But it would be nice to work on NOR...

Anybody on BTC interested in playing AC during the week? Of course its nice to be from the area. I have gone many days and I am the only player at Trop. Trying to learn the NOR correctly. They have both no commission and commission tbls. I go to most casinos so if there is a preference. I played with a friend at Ballys last night and was down a little. Hoping some more real players were out an about. I had one of Ellis' TB4L runs written down to follow general flow and it worked well up front but cards turned about quarter way in. M

I am from AC area....trying to learn NOR now....would like to meet at Trop if in the area. Currently just reading manual now. I played at Trop by myself duringthe weeknights since no one is there on the no commision $15 table...I did hit a couple of Dragons/Pandas...yes, I know that is discouraged but I also made big bank with those bets.