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According to Ellis, he is getting excellent reports from singapore players. I'm not doing well too..

RWS reuses the cards. After a shoe, they will take out the newly shuffled cards from the machines and replace them with the used cards.

My mistake, i was supposed to write automatic shuffle machines. Well, everyone makes mistakes, including you. You said U2HI can beat any shoe from anywhere, didn't you? I believe in you that's why I am still here. Why do you like to assume that people don't know things??? I was confused by you because RWS cards come in the boxes similar to MBS. If MBS is using factory shuffled cards, then RWS should be using factory shuffled cards right? BUt you said RWS is using regular cards? For RWS, the cards will be shuffled by the machine before use. I am not harassing you, you were harassing me with your comment. I've already stopped after that thread.

Thanks Pando!

Ellis and brad, that comment is not neccessary. You are adding oil to the fire. What are you trying to prove? We have said before how the cards are prepared. RWS low minimum tables - continously shuffle machine(how would one know if the have a room for card prep?) MBS - Preshuffled cards (no idea whether it is factory or casino shuffled) I'm not trying to start a fight. But until you stop all these comments, there will be no peace. What we need now is how to play sap/rsap.

way2fast, I respect you alot, but does it impact your learning if Ellis don't let someone in free? I know money is less important to you than anyone else, since you are so successful playing MDB. But this forum is a business to Ellis, and it should be fair to everyone. I assumed that you meant if someone were to share the teachings in this forum to some strangers, it does not impact our learning so we should get over it. Now, if Ellis let those who did not pay learn this U2HI replacement strategy (SAP/RSAP), who would pay for a new strategy in future, not know if the new strategy would be free for all in time to come? SAP/RSAP is supposed to be a replacement to the U2HI so in my opinion, only those who had paid for it should have access to it.

Ellis was saying some MDB members do not have access to this U2Hi forum. If they paid the $200, why are they not in? As far as I understand, current mdb members do not have to pay extra. sap/rsap is a replacement for the U2Hi we paid for. If Ellis is gonna teach at a new sap/rsap forum and let ALL mdb members have access, it is unfair for people who paid the $200. It's like you paid for a dinner at a restaurant and the owner of the restaurant allows some strangers to come and share the food with you!

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I don't mind learning RSAP/SAP if it works well. I am asking why the current MDB players do not have to pay $200 to learn what we paid for. We paid $200 so we should get something NEW that the current MDB players should not have access to if they dont pay extra right? IF SAP/RSAP is a replacement to the U2HI I dont see why the current MDB players should benefit from it when they didnt fork out the extra cash to be fair.

So rather than me teaching SAP on two different forums at the same time Which is too time consuming we decided it is better to teach SAP/RSAP on ONE SAP forum and give MDB members access to that forum. Hi Ellis, may I ask what we get for paying 200 bucks if MDB players can have access to the SAP/RSAP? Can we request for refund? We paid 200 bucks and got nothing but a mechanical 2hi system that doesnt work and you said your team was working on it and was showing good progress. Then you said 2Hi will not work well for netbetting. Then you said we should do SAP/RSAP. So if MDB players can have access to this, why are we paying for this? I am a MDB player. We paid for the 2HI in march and it's may now. It's been a long wait and i'm very disappointed. I paid for NOR and MDB and these did not work well at Singapore's casinos(PLEASE DON'T SAY THAT I DID NOT PRACTICE ENOUGH OR I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING). You said U2Hi will work because it doesnt care where the shoes come from. So I paid for it hoping for the best but it didnt work! SO can you tell us what do we get exactly for the 200 bucks.

Is the SAP/RSAP already created? We've been waiting for quite sometime already.

Thanks for the reply Ellis. You were talking abour C cards and F cards.. What about for Singapore? Since we know that the shoes in Singapore are neither 'real' NOR or MDB. Do we use SAP or RSAP?

Ellis, how long more do we have to wait to learn this?

Johnnycs1 I can understand your frustration. I am waiting too..

Ellis, can you please reply here and let us know what is happening now? any updates? We know you are busy following other threads but please don't forget us!!