Thanks zeckam but I need no one to hold my hand to win at baccarat.I flat bet with the occasional 2 bet and im about the same age as oz. I annoy my friend who plays progression but he is set in his ways when I try to hit 10 wins in a row 8, 9 and 10 are hard but hit it thursday just my little challenge.The best players I know are on the webb my friends cant play and I see no good players at the casino,a few weeks ago a player was up 4.2 million playing strong side norms favorite, single baker long player repeating then lost to two bankers left the table walked straight into another strong side shoe this time single banker long players playing half and full table limit table limit 100,000. I was impressed till I saw him get smashed on a shoe with twos and threes 100,000 gone followed by another etc.Oz is right it is hard to show someone how to make a decision reading the board and seeing what the o and t are doing etc.The other way is playing a method that wins a little sometimes and losses a lot most times,anyway I wish everyone the best