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  1. At least if this is NOR forum lets keep it like that so it's easier for poor soul like me who hasn't find anything useful in the manual and now is trying to sift through all the posts hoping there might be something useful to learn.

    thank you

    "Hasn't found anything useful in the manual"????????

    What manual are you reading?

    The NOR manual is a fount of information. READ IT! I mean READ IT. Don't just skim it and look at the pictures. READ IT.

    It will take several readings. After you read it, study it. If you haven't found anything useful you have not read it.

    Until you read it properly, please do me and many other members a favor and stop your incessant whining. Read it and study it

    and then come back with some intelligent questions, if that is a possibility for you. Ellis has said many times that there are no

    stupid questions. There are, however, stupid people.

  2. Team,

    I booked the team ( Yes Vicky will be there for those who only come to see her) for the 4D Seminar that is scheduled for Feb 8th 2014. That is a Saturday in Feb. It always helps us if you book early so we know what to expect. Remember to use the discount code as a legacy NOR player: NORPLAYERS

    This reduces the registration fee to $250.00 Bucks.

    This seminar will be a big one with all the participation we are having. If someone who signs up could grab Ellis when he get's there I'd appreciate it as we will be getting there a bit later in the day than when he arrives. Zebra?

    I will drive him to our hotel. I arrive at about the same time

  3. Team,

    I booked the team ( Yes Vicky will be there for those who only come to see her) for the 4D Seminar that is scheduled for Feb 8th 2014. That is a Saturday in Feb. It always helps us if you book early so we know what to expect. Remember to use the discount code as a legacy NOR player: NORPLAYERS

    This reduces the registration fee to $250.00 Bucks.

    This seminar will be a big one with all the participation we are having. If someone who signs up could grab Ellis when he get's there I'd appreciate it as we will be getting there a bit later in the day than when he arrives. Zebra?

    I will drive him to our hotel. I arrive at about the same time

  4. I don't know why you are so concerned about Dave and what he has to say.

    What kind of a following does he have? How many bac players actually read

    his stuff. I certainly never would have until he started following you around.

    Why waste time and energy answering his drivel. Just let him go back to his

    hole and blog to his small group of toadies. He isn't worth the effort.

    Paul

  5. At the request of NormA I am posting a bunch of the other shoes we were dealt in Vegas.

    There were several others that we left early either to secure a win or to get out of Dodge.

    I am only posting shoes we stayed a while at.

    These are Gold Coast shoes:

    1. Best of the trip - made big SAP bets toward the end (won 6 of 7) betting 2's don't go to 3

    B13212112211111

    B221221113221

    B12112111211133

    2. Tough one - went to -11, finished at +6

    P242211111311

    P211122281

    B1224321221

    P1322

    3. Went to +10 (shoulda quit) ended +4

    B14171221

    P11221151222

    B31

    4. got out at +6 after high of +9

    P232121113121

    B533211

    Palace Station Shoes

    1. Out at -8

    B11131261211

    B1121113113111

    2. Quit at +4 after high of +7

    P1412121211112

    B112123

    3. Best PS shoe +10 (high +11)

    P1117111232

    P221122121312

    P2213

  6. I want to give you an example of what we were up against.

    An unnamed person (Keith) told Me and Ellis that we should

    play at Luxor because the shoes were very choppy and we

    should be able to kill them. So we went to Luxor. It was

    early afternoon and there was only one table and nobody

    was playing (red flag). We started a new shoe. (My scanner

    is down so I can't post it). The shoe began like this:

    P B B P P B B B P

    We jumped in on the second hand and played OTB4L. At

    the end of the 9th hand (above) we were +5 and were having

    visions of one of those +40 shoes. The next hands were:

    B P B B P B

    So of course OTB lost and we switched to S40 and won the

    last two hands above, but were now only +2. Then we got

    hit by this:

    B B B P B B B P P P

    We did not stick around to see what followed. If we switched

    to F we might have won some of the last hands, but there was

    no warning - no 2 ever went to 3. And who is to say if the streaks

    would continue. If we went back to OTB we might have won a few,

    but what indicated that we should switch back. Even in hindsight

    this was impossible to play.

    My point is that this shoe typifies what Vegas is putting out there.

    Not everything is this bad and we managed to win more than we

    lost and come out with a little profit, but every shoe was a grind.

    Paul

  7. I totally agree with Ellis. I have never seen conditions so hard to beat. If you play at

    a table where you are starting a new shoe you have to assume the cards are new and

    pre-arranged (a better term than pre-shuffled.) One particular shoe where Ellis left down

    8 I was going to leave as well, but I was sitting next to a student and decided to stick

    around to help. After a couple of wins I decided to jump back in because the shoe was

    changing. It became an OTB shoe and I wound up +8. I consider these pre-arranged cards

    to be cheating by the casino and should be banned.

    The Vegas trip was enjoyable and a little profitable. It was nice meeting the other players

    and comparing notes and war stories. And it's always great to pick the brain of the master.

    Paul

  8. There have been many versions of scorecards developed to fit our method of play

    and I'm sure they are available somewhere in this forum. I have been using one

    myself for years and always bring a supply with me when I play. I have never received

    and grief from dealers or pit bosses about this. As far as putting information on them,

    anyone can add their own reminders on their cards. However, my feeling is that if you

    need a 'cheat sheet" you really should not be playing for real money yet. You need to

    practice enough so that any information you might want to put on your card should be

    in your head. I'm sure the casinos would encourage players to bring in "cheat sheets."

    That just proves to the casinos that the player is not ready to play.

    Paul

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