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System 40 Questions I've taken a break but am now getting ready ready for a few days in Vegas. Questions: 1. In the Sys 40 manual, 5+s aren't counted. Why? 2. In the sample game on the last page, 3s are most common (if I remember correctly) but you lost to every one (confirmed and unconfirmed). With real money, would you try to win all the MC as well as lose to the LC?

I didn't try to bet, just played off the tote.

After a wash, BP got its chop back. No 4+s, ZZs of 10 and 7. +52 with Sys 40 U1D2M2. Anybody play it for real? P1111232111321 P1131111122321 P211111111122212 B112311211112111

Well, BP got its chop back. After a wash, no 4+s, 4 3s, zzs of 10 and 7. +52 with Sys 40 U1D2M2. Hope somebody played it for real!

Short shoes again. Having problems at BPH. How come they never reject my losing bets? I wonder how real time the game is. Watching a shuffle, the picture cut to the cards all in the shoe. Would've taken a least a minute.

Current game 18 6 0 0 14 ZZ to start! But bet clock is screwed up again and won't take my bets. HMMMM? Ok after awhile. Gotta go, current 30 14 4 4. Realized could have played F3 theu entire shoe ande cleaned up big time.

Thanks, Wolfman, but I still don't get why the one particular shoe you're playing is governed by statistics which are only meaningful in the long run. Would you bet against a run of 8 because it only occurs one time in 8 shoes and one just occurred in the last shoe? Or would you play what's happening right now? I guess I could understand If we're playing the odds over a large number of shoes.

Has anyone else noticed that lately 3s are either very low or high, usually low?

That's what I figured, but they could be a little nicer to their customers, maybe a "sorry" in there somewhere.

I've started getting the following message after not betting (6 hands this time) "You have been kicked out of the game." Not very cordial!

I tried to post it using Hog's explanation-couldn't get it in my album. I could email it to you if you give me your address. I started on P at play 9 because it won 4 of the last 5. I used RD because I had seen the whole shoe already. Also, Mark said he usually starts with RD, didn't want to use OTB4l because of possible ZZ, 40 didn't look so hot (although it got hot). I suppose F2 could've been a choice starting on P but the result would be the same, going to RD after the P run from play 14-19.

1. I still don't completely understand using only weighted event counts. E.g., with a SAP count of 6 10 20 8 the conventional wisdom is to bet 2s will go to 3. But there have been an equal number of 2s and 3s, 5 each. So why is it more likely 2s will go to 3 in THIS PARTICULAR SHOE, in which they're running equal, and which shoe doesn't know or care what the normal occurrences are in the long run? 2. When counting 1s, 2s 3s and 4s does anybody have an opinion as to whether it makes a difference whether they are Ps or Bs. E.g., if only, or mostly, Ps have been 3s, would you be less likely to bet on B going to 3?

This shoe at BPH scored +47 from play 9 with RD straight through Wish I played it! What happened to chop? B33111111161 B3112215221 P331114331 P39212

How about at the beginning of this thread?

Will I never ger even?

These are from stock market trading, but many equally applicable here, 1. The market is God. This means that the market is always right, even if its wrong. If you think the market should be in a double dip and it isn't, then that's your problem — not the market's. Your theory is wrong. You missed something. Blaming the market never made anyone any money. 4. Wall Street's Hippocratic Oath: First do no harm. In other words, it is better not to make money than to lose it. 5. Never apologize for a profit. The goal in investing is to make money. If you make 5% and the stock goes up another 1,000%, it doesn't matter. You still made money, and that's a good thing. 6. There is no success like success. When you make a winning trade, make it again. This means that if you trade dividend announcements, or you trade MACD crossovers, or whatever you do... If it works, keep going back to it until it doesn't. One of the best years I ever had was shorting recent IPOs after the insider-shares unlocked. This worked like a dream until it became too popular and IPOs started staggering their unlock dates. 7. Never put money in a hope. If you don't have a clear investment strategy with a simple catalyst for share price appreciation, don't buy the stock. 8. Be your own man. Do your own research and stick to your guns. You know more about the trade than they do. 9. Never step in front of a freight train. This is also known as the "don't catch a falling knife" rule. There are bottom signs in the market; know them and wait for them. After reading what's going on in the BPH thread, I'm adding another commandment: Getting ugly never won anybody any money. Probably the opposite.

I didn't see the beginning of the shoe so I suppose that could have happened. The good news is I was on that 13 run--the bad news is that I bet mostly single units on it. So I tried to fib the next run once it hit 5-no luck. Btw, this shoe was the second after their big deal 2 dealer wash.

Something strange at BPH just now. The joker came out in a streaky shoe (6 4 16 12) at play 38. Then a full-fledged wash in the middle of the day. Methinks they're looking for chop! I guess no regulation in CR.

Don't worry, Norm. I'm bound to have another opinion worth at least 1/2 cent!

My 1 1/2 cents (probably not worth the full 2 cents). Maverick is for the average to good player while Ellis is talking about becoming a real pro. There's validity to both approaches. I should become a diplomat!

Thanks, Ellis! I guess as you always (or used to say, anyway) "It's a thinking person's (pc) game." One more question-- is Big Whip a river in Arkansas?

Bravo. Ellis, but how do you know what's coming? In many shoes at BPH, there will be a trend for 5-10 plays then abruptly change. I might catch the last 3-4 hands after identifying the trend and then lose it in the next 2-3 hands when the trend changes. I guess the safest way is to play those few shoes in which the trend lasts much longer. For example, the first shoe today after the morning wash-+23 O/R count. Sys 40 straight through U1D2= +35, hi bet 3. P11131211211311 P1121241112112 B31111231111112 B21111121151

Thanks, Hog. Super chop from BPH tonight==28 20 8 12 sap count.

There were 4 ties a few days ago as well. Did you play this shoe straight through RDh with no pauses? I got +10 with 5 hi that way to just before the humongous run. At first OTB4L looked promising, it won 4 of 6 in hands 3-8--big mistake as the 6 run came immediately after. BPH looks choppy in the mornings, and definitely gets streaky later in the day. Just as Ellis says. I have trouble moving from chop to streak and back in their shoes.

F2 shoe going on right now.