Guest Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Hey, dOmaIn, TODAY, Everyone is a visual learner. Don't ask me how this happened. Maybe it's language barrier - We have more languages on this forum now than ever before. BTC has definitely become multinational and multi linguistic. Or maybe it's the computer age. I don't really know.BUT, the advantage of a seminar is you are seeing stuff LIVE. A picture is worth a thousand words. A flip chart can do what no language can do. It can connect the dots so ALL can understand regardless of age or native language. I have been seeing this for 30 years. You know, in the past we have recorded MANY seminars. But we always only used these recordings to teach siminar GIVERS, not Baccarat or BJ STUDENTS. Your idea somehow escaped me in the past. BUT, its a natural in this day and age. The multi lingual computer age, let's call it. Thanks for a good idea! I'm sure we can figure out a way to put it to good use.Ellis - Never too old to learn new tricks! - I just look that way! Edited July 27, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVSeahog Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'd really love to be there for this one for sure but that particular time period is right smack in the middle of my annual "Sturgis and Black Hills Motorcycle Rally" every year.Sounds like it will be a good time in store for you all though so enjoy it to the fullest!MVS What's an MVSeahog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Don't worry about it MVS. When we leave there we're all coming to your house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ma1n Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Ellis, Thanks for loving the idea. Yes, in the information age, like it or not, we are revolutionizing ourself here (even my parent learn to use iPad now in order to communictae with their grandchildren). I have attended online LIVE seminar before from RichDad PoorDad which cost $9.99, and it is a good experience although the limitation is we can't ask any question and just sit and watch. The only holdback for this seminar is only cater for the millionaire club. Not many can really practise of what they teach, but the teaching is still good.But a BTC seminar which speak a universal language and can benefit everyone (if they have the right attitude and discipline) and will definately do better than any other seminar. BTC might make a breakthru in promoting NOR as a long term investment plan (which i truly believe), rather than just a betting system in Bac. To me life is gambling, and we know gambler are loser. That's what our society are, difference is they dont gamble in casino (which make them being look bad or down), but they are consistently gambling their whole life in every aspects. Just like when i first sign up to BTC in 2008, in my mind, i will gamble $500 to sign up and see what is in it for me, from 2008-2010, nothing much happen, still losing with any systems promote in BTC, almost give up, but luckily stay long enuff to see a breakthru with NOR now. And this is where the turning point from a gambler to become a smart investor. Only 10% investor will make money, and the 90% gambler will put their money to these investor and HOPE to make some money. In BTC, we can start to make our own money right away. If we look at it this way, there will be a huge market for BTC with NOR as an investment tool, great marketing concept yah. You just need to proof it once and for all, then the rest we can setup a marketing division for BTC.I write so much! Gosh..d0ma1nNOR Investor d0ma1nNOR & SAP student Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Well said d0ma1n! We've taught all 3 of the NOR systems before. The point I had trouble making was that when you study a new system you keep the old ones in your quiver. You don't just forget them, But even BTC didn't get that and kept removing the older systems when I wasn't looking. Solution: take the best three and teach them as ONE single approach.I would get calls from students and they would say something like:"I'm going to the casino to play OTB4L" or whatever.No, no, no! You NEVER decide what you are going to play BEFORE you get to the casino. You must wait to see what you are up against. Let the shoe and table tell you what to play. Baccarat is about playing the right system at the right time. One of the 3 NOR systems will beat ANY shoe section ever dealt esp. if you figure out the best MODE. Knowing the 3 systems is the easy part. Learning which system to play and which mode is the tricky part. But once you get BOTH parts down pat, you are unstoppable. Edited July 28, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have the following folks confirmed for a room at the Holiday Inn in Grantville PA.Mike HoltzHarold HeatwoleJohn SakoJeremy ZandersKevin AchatzLeo ShawIf there is anybody else who wants to stay at the Holiday Inn just call me and I will make the reservation for you. It's $129.00 for Sat night and $99 for any other. It's where we are having the seminar so it may be easier to stay there rather than elsewhere.If you are going to go to the seminar please, sign up now so we have an accurate count for the seminar room on Saturday. We have it scheduled from 10 am - 4 pm but we can juggle a bit to accommodate the group as a whole.In addition the most important part will be the play session after the seminar. We will want to take a break, get something to eat and then hit the casino.RegardsKeith717-525-3491 is my cell Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Ok I have also Richard DeschAnyone else still not too late to sign up and make the seminar it will be big!!!Keith Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted August 2, 2011 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Forget the fact that this may/may not be Ellis' grand hurrah ( lkely he outlives us all!)Ignore the assumption that these kind of seminars are typically B.O.R.I.N.G. If you want to evaluate how-to?/can-I?/Is-it-possible to make a living playing BAC?, you should attend! You CAN make a lot of $$ at this..I do, and I will tell you How, Where and Why it happens....Don't think for one minute that all you will see/learn is already on the website...NOR is pretty good ( No, it is really good... but TRUST ME, THERE ARE LOTS OF POTHOLES AND LOOPHOLES IN IT'S EXECUTION YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF) ...but I plan to introduce two earth-moving concepts to augment NOR that if you play without, you are just leaving big $$ on the table)Every one of us has been a 'dreamer" at one time or another...In the last 18 months, BTC converted me from dreaming-about-playing for the dough to consistent-big/big winner. And I will demonstrate this at the seminar ( sorry, I play so much, and I have a 10 hour/day real job, that I simply do not have the time to just "post" my actual shoe results, and deal with all the the resultant emails/ questions/comments I do not have time to answer..) JUST WHAT THOSE TWO LITTLE SECRETS ARE...I am willing to share...No, I am not a maverick, and I will not charge a nickel for any of this, but since I am devoting my entire weekend to the seminar, I will only detail it then-and-there....This is the real deal, my friends, but you miss this, and you miss out on thousands-upon-thousands of winning $$ bets over the life of a Bac careeer... don't have a lifetime?? TRY A WEEK'S WORTH OF BETS...or, just one day, just one BET could get it all back for you...no promoises, just some indisputable facts about the game...you decide.Cannot believe you will pass this one up...promise to see you there and trade a few secrests even Ellis has not exploited ( he is very, very smart, but I only "get it" about 1/3 of what he is saying...how about you?)As always, I wish you all only the BEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted August 2, 2011 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Forget the fact that this may/may not be Ellis' grand hurrah ( lkely he outlives us all!)Ignore the assumption that these kind of seminars are typically B.O.R.I.N.G. If you want to evaluate how-to?/can-I?/Is-it-possible to make a living playing BAC?, you should attend! You CAN make a lot of $$ at this..I do, and I will tell you How, Where and Why it happens....Don't think for one minute that all you will see/learn is already on the website...NOR is pretty good ( No, it is really good... but TRUST ME, THERE ARE LOTS OF POTHOLES AND LOOPHOLES IN IT'S EXECUTION YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF) ...but I plan to introduce two earth-moving concepts to augment NOR that if you play without, you are just leaving big $$ on the table)Every one of us has been a 'dreamer" at one time or another...In the last 18 months, BTC converted me from dreaming-about-playing for the dough to consistent-big/big winner. And I will demonstrate this at the seminar ( sorry, I play so much, and I have a 10 hour/day real job, that I simply do not have the time to just "post" my actual shoe results, and deal with all the the resultant emails/ questions/comments I do not have time to answer..) JUST WHAT THOSE TWO LITTLE SECRETS ARE...I am willing to share...No, I am not a maverick, and I will not charge a nickel for any of this, but since I am devoting my entire weekend to the seminar, I will only detail it then-and-there....This is the real deal, my friends, but you miss this, and you miss out on thousands-upon-thousands of winning $$ bets over the life of a Bac careeer... don't have a lifetime?? TRY A WEEK'S WORTH OF BETS...or, just one day, just one BET could get it all back for you...no promoises, just some indisputable facts about the game...you decide.Cannot believe you will pass this one up...promise to see you there and trade a few secrests even Ellis has not exploited ( he is very, very smart, but I only "get it" about 1/3 of what he is saying...how about you?)As always, I wish you all only the BEST!PS. This is the Keith/Ellis show...not mine....I just want you to know that to spend a grand or so on seminar/hotel/flights is a lot of $$, but you will NOT be disappointed...I have never met either Ellis or Keith, but anyone who knows me quickly understands ain't no fooling around...It is THEIR SHOW, and I promise only to "speak when spoken to" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smith Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Room ConfirmedLam, StevenDesch, RichardFolks we are filling up if you want to come please register now so I have count.KS. Join us in Vegas for the Back to Vegas Seminar at the Crescent Dealer's School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank77 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Hi Keith.I would love to go to the NOR training seminar unfortunately I live down under. At this stage I cant afford to go due to financial and time constraints. Is it possible to have it recorded ? Could you tell me where I could find information on F2 & F3 systems and when these can be used ? RegardsFrank77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Frank, look under The NOR Approach under Baccarat. You'll find the F, OTB4L and S40 rules there. We'll have a hard cover Nor manual shortly. Yes, we will video record the seminar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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