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go 2,on banker,

banker once again...B9 P8

3rd column now B P BBB

Put me down for another unit on Banker!

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kachatz1
2 on B - 3's go to 4's

Agreed that 50% Do, and 50% don't ( if only we knew which-was-which!) OOps, we did it again...all of us!

Player came out P7 B1

Now 3rd street ( warminc's easy street...) looks like this :

B1131

So I looked back at P only and noticed the following for the shoe:

PP P P PPP PP PP .... up through the last P ( 1 unconfirmed)... looks to me like P 2-or-more was a solid bet...What the hey, I am back down to +9 , so decided at that point in the shoe to go 2 units on P ( Lose last hand go up, win go down, right?)...Kind of doubting myself after last sequence BBB P BBB P, but no pain, no gain...give it a whirl...each side still seems to have some "follow" attributes to it...Bill, I think you mentionned a number of posts back ADN? Well, when I was playing the shoe, of course you not there to "urge me on", but curious to see what other perspectives on NOR would say to do, all things considered..

HOW MUCH TO BET, AND WHY?

Let's discuss as my bet is purely speculative, and have "sat on my hands" twice this shoe for 4-5 hands each time, so I am a bit "antsy" at this juncture... Oh, and here comes he cocktail waitress!

Let me explain: I have 3 superstitions:

a) cocktail waitress arrives just as i place a big bet...oops!

B) all of a sudden, new money flows into the table and it causes a commotion/ruckus/discussion about the game

c) for whatever reason, the dealer 'TOUCHES' MY BET' , for whatever reason whatsoever,( like to make some sort of adjustment, center it in the circle, check vis-a-vis table limits, etc.)

Oh well, the cards have been dealt so too late to change...besides, maybe a cup of coffee is in order right about now...

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waminc

3 units on B...following F2 with a 234 prog. If I lose...decision time as I would fall to +9.

Bill

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moneybac

well, that's a deep subject,1's still mc,2's lc,still like F2,have to go 2 banker

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kachatz1
well, that's a deep subject,1's still mc,2's lc,still like F2,have to go 2 banker

old ad campaign

I am stuck on BandAids, cause BandAids stuck on you....

So prepare for the Ouchee...Another Player P7 B6

Looked right, looked left....everyone at the table said another Player!

I agree for 2 units

( be careful what the crowd mentality says to do..)

Ladies and gentleman ( not sure anyone here qualifies). PLACE YOUR BETS.

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waminc

Well, normally I'd get out here with a +9. There has been no really strong side...25P, 22B, so I feel taking a 9 unit win in this shoe is good.

But for the sake of keeping the game going...I bet 4 units on B (stiil playing P at F3).

Bill

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kachatz1

Once again, out comes the Player

Now 3rd street at BPBBBPPP

I say follow the Player and will wager 2 units...I am at +13 units and hoping to improve...the pace of play is slow, as there are now people betting over-the-top of players at our table...interesting about half the players at the table betting B, and some of us staying on the mini-P run to go to 4-in- a-row

I think most players prefer the streak and over chop, and I think that is why we have so many players standing behind the table..just IMO

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kachatz1
2 on P...F3 for P side. Now at +5 again.

Bill

bill, I think the rest of the team has left the shoe, and perhaps wisely so!

I hope everyrone is sticking to their stop-loss and stop win objectives, just like Elllis preaches..

Well, it was a player, P8 B2

Leaves us as follows for the shoe:

From the Beginning :

PP

BBBB

P

B

P

B

PPP

B

PP

B

PP

B

P

B

PPPPP

BBBB

PP

B

PP

B

P

BBB

P

BBB

PPPP

In the interest of time, I will flash forward and tell you I finished up 18 units, less 1.9 units for B commission, tips and the cocktail waitress

here is how the shoe finished out...any one wants to see the real things and all my notations pm me with your fax number/email address and I will scan it to you

from the above point here is what happened:

B2312211112111312

Tomorrow, I will talk about the whole shoe and my thoughts on How NOR, Sap etc kept me in the game...

In the meantime, happy Sunday to all and I hope you and your families are all in good spirits and Health!!

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waminc

I think it's good to critique play. I would have left the shoe after hand 47 at +9. I was too quick to attempt to increase my win rate by switching to a 234 prog when I did. The shoe never showed a strong disparity between P and B. I increased my prog on the side that was weaker overall in the shoe; however the end result would have been the same if I had stayed with 123. The shoe was in the 3rd street when I got greedy...too late to try to kill the shoe by increasing the bet size with a relatively balanced result between P and B. A good time to visit the restroom or stroll around looking at other tables.

Thanks for putting up an interesting exercise for us, Kevin. Give me a call when you get a chance to come back to Biloxi.

Bill

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moneybac

you learn more on a tough shoe,than an easy one,it make's more sense to take your time 2 fine the best shoe if you have several games,to pick from,then there's mm,sure got a lot of work ahead,so when's the next one.lol

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zebra

I missed too many bets. I just have too many other things going on

and when I checked the site I missed a bet or 2. The way it finished,

I probably would have increased my winnings with the predominance

of 1's and 2's, but it was a difficult shoe. I suggest that if we do this

again (which would be nice) we do it in an hour or so like they did

for the tournament at BF. Just a few minutes between hands so we

can all post our wagers. We could use a recent shoe from anywhere

and have everyone start at the same point, like hand 2. We just need

someone to sit out and post the plays. Everyone can post their own

scores as we go along with explanations for their wagers. How does

that sound to you guys?

Paul

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joeystyle
I missed too many bets. I just have too many other things going on

and when I checked the site I missed a bet or 2. The way it finished,

I probably would have increased my winnings with the predominance

of 1's and 2's, but it was a difficult shoe. I suggest that if we do this

again (which would be nice) we do it in an hour or so like they did

for the tournament at BF. Just a few minutes between hands so we

can all post our wagers. We could use a recent shoe from anywhere

and have everyone start at the same point, like hand 2. We just need

someone to sit out and post the plays. Everyone can post their own

scores as we go along with explanations for their wagers. How does

that sound to you guys?

Paul

Paul, may I suggest using Black Orchid online casino for such an idea? They have live dealers (in comparison to dead ones) and a chat area to go with it. Since USA based players can't use real currency, I doubt the Black Orchid officials who look on there would care less. If we just posted in the real time chat box,whether we are placing our bets on either P or B,number of units and the results as we went along during the shoe. We just need to find a day and time that would be good for the ones who want to participate.

Just an idea I want to throw out to you all.

Ciao

Joey

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kachatz1
Paul, may I suggest using Black Orchid online casino for such an idea? They have live dealers (in comparison to dead ones) and a chat area to go with it. Since USA based players can't use real currency, I doubt the Black Orchid officials who look on there would care less. If we just posted in the real time chat box,whether we are placing our bets on either P or B,number of units and the results as we went along during the shoe. We just need to find a day and time that would be good for the ones who want to participate.

Just an idea I want to throw out to you all.

Ciao

Joey

Good idea ..not sure how to choose a time that works for all, other than to just pick one and post on the forum and whoever can play does so?

I just went to BlackOrchid.com and it was easy to set up an account...

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