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4 minutes ago, Stridergohan said:

Yeah, I appreciate your approach, but it is way too risky for such little profit. If you can't win flat betting, it's not really worth it in my eyes. 

whatever is comfortable to you is what is important. To me, flat betting alone doesn't always work

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Hi JMoney45, Oz is probably the most accomplished player on this site. I would take his advice before you lose your bankroll. Well I must give you credit, you are really trying hard to find

I thought this shoe looked familiar...and now I know the reason... I checked my records and this is an actual shoe that I played in a "REAL" Casino with all the pressures associated with playing

TBH,       If something is working for you then keep at it.  I just don't see the need to limit your unit size because of a progression.  Why not play higher units for a lower win goal.  I for on

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Difference of opinions and a constant debate between negative progressions vs up as you win

Its good that you can look at a 30% drawdown as you are up 70%

I guess it comes back to the cup half empty or cup half full concept

I say the cup is neither - its actually half full !

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4 minutes ago, brad01 said:

Difference of opinions and a constant debate between negative progressions vs up as you win

Its good that you can look at a 30% drawdown as you are up 70%

I guess it comes back to the cup half empty or cup half full concept

I say the cup is neither - its actually half full !

I understand that as been half full. I would add on to that saying being half full that can be refill.

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You do realize that the risk/reward is terribly askew, right? I'm not saying you're using a martingale, but the need of a 2400 unit bankroll for profits is just short of insanity. What happens if/when you lose the 2400 units? What happens when you have a string of consecutive bad days?

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3 minutes ago, Stridergohan said:

You do realize that the risk/reward is terribly askew, right? I'm not saying you're using a martingale, but the need of a 2400 unit bankroll for profits is just short of insanity. What happens if/when you lose the 2400 units? What happens when you have a string of consecutive bad days?

it's about what you believe will work and I'm a believer in this. Never think about the could-have-been moments. But to answer your question. If I ever lost my entire bankroll or have a string of bad days, I accept them and rebuild. Losing will occur but I am aware of when to stop for the day win or lose. Besides the losses are less and less everytime when I reach a goal in every shoe I practice.

Absolutely no martingale involved. Just tracking the numbers after every bet is made. And with my money management rules, 2400-unit bankroll would increase every month. And for me turning this into a future job, I want to work my way up to $100 units and just work with that for the rest of my life.

You saw the very beginning of this topic. It mentioned that with my method, you can make at least $105 per game or per day in profits with $5 units. That would be excellent for anybody starting out. However, I would teach people to add their profits to your bankroll so that when its all said and done, they would have WAY more than 2400 units in your bankroll because of the Money Management Rules that I would share with them.

so I'm a believer. And I'm going to keep it that way.

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Thinking JDMo'Money has got it going.

     - Check out ALL THE VivoGaming girls on their site!

Reminds me of LV strip Friday " little black dress night". Or, perhaps even closer Canada's very own NakedNews lineup!

     - ( just they're not naked?)

But for real, thinking JDMo' has our attention...fun to contemplate, right?

.    - sadly, Thinking his $$ is like Monopoly issue...if he could really get his hands on it, and spend it, why the heck would you not quit your job, and stop wasting your time typing out answers to repetitive, cautionary, downright disbelieving inane questions?

     ( look closely at VIvo site...you will understand the answer...)

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4 minutes ago, kachatz1 said:

Thinking JDMo'Money has got it going.

     - Check out ALL THE VivoGaming girls on their site!

Reminds me of LV strip Friday " little black dress night". Or, perhaps even closer Canada's very own NakedNews lineup!

     - ( just they're not naked?)

But for real, thinking JDMo' has our attention...fun to contemplate, right?

.    - sadly, Thinking his $$ is like Monopoly issue...if he could really get his hands on it, and spend it, why the heck would you not quit your job, and stop wasting your time typing out answers to repetitive, cautionary, downright disbelieving inane questions?

     ( look closely at VIvo site...you will understand the answer...)

very funny :)

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There is so much I could say, but I haven't taken my meds...and people don't like me much when I haven't taken my meds...so I'll bite my tongue because you seem like a nice enough kid.

But take it from me as a full time Baccarat/Roulette Player whose sole income is from beating the Casino at their own game...You will lose your entire Bankroll young fella...it's not a matter of "if"...it's only a matter of "when". 

You are not the first and definitely won't be the last player to think he has developed a mathematical plan to beat Baccarat. I did and probably most of this Forum did as well. Brilliant mathematical minds have tried and all have failed. Computer Geeks have tried and failed...There is no mathematical Formulae that will beat Baccarat long term.

 

So saying...Baccarat can be beaten by bet selection and you have stumbled on most likely the best Baccarat site on the Net. My suggestion to you (which you will no doubt ignore) is to invest $50 and join the Private section of the Forum and you will receive guidance from the best in the business and if you like what you see, you can continue paying a monthly subscription and if you put the same effort into learning how to beat Baccarat as you did in developing your system, you have every chance of joining the very few who beat the casino.

Sadly...you will not heed my advice and will go on to lose your entire Bankroll and I will have wasted 10 mins of my life that I could have spent searching for my meds.

 

The choice is yours 

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Hi JMoney45,

Oz is probably the most accomplished player on this site. I would take his advice before you lose your bankroll.

Well I must give you credit, you are really trying hard to find a way to beat the casino. I admire that. I always say, you have to want or need something bad enough to conquer it and not give up no matter what.. Do you agree?

Although you may have been winning in all the shoes you played so far, it's only a matter of time before you incur that one shoe that does not conform to what you are doing, and you will lose your entire bankroll. There are hundreds of players on this website and all have at sometime or other tried to come up with a method that will beat the casino. Some have succeeded and are sharing their success and strategy here. Having to play with a bankroll of 2400 units is insane.   

Moreover, the online sites that you are using to practice use computer generated outcomes. You will find the outcomes are much different in a real casino. I am telling you this because I don't want you to incur a big loss when you actually do go to a casino. The cards in a real casino are MANIPULATED, card by card, to ensure outcomes that are anti trend. That's why people lose. So don't get your hopes up too much.

You should join this forum as a paid member and that would entitle you to the VinSap method developed by McVince who is one of our more experienced players. With your current bankroll of $2400, you could be betting $50 units comfortably and make 6 to 10 units per day. That's $500 a day. Isn't that better than making 100 unit bets? 

CT70

 

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5 hours ago, ozscouser1 said:

There is so much I could say, but I haven't taken my meds...and people don't like me much when I haven't taken my meds...so I'll bite my tongue because you seem like a nice enough kid.

But take it from me as a full time Baccarat/Roulette Player whose sole income is from beating the Casino at their own game...You will lose your entire Bankroll young fella...it's not a matter of "if"...it's only a matter of "when". 

You are not the first and definitely won't be the last player to think he has developed a mathematical plan to beat Baccarat. I did and probably most of this Forum did as well. Brilliant mathematical minds have tried and all have failed. Computer Geeks have tried and failed...There is no mathematical Formulae that will beat Baccarat long term.

 

So saying...Baccarat can be beaten by bet selection and you have stumbled on most likely the best Baccarat site on the Net. My suggestion to you (which you will no doubt ignore) is to invest $50 and join the Private section of the Forum and you will receive guidance from the best in the business and if you like what you see, you can continue paying a monthly subscription and if you put the same effort into learning how to beat Baccarat as you did in developing your system, you have every chance of joining the very few who beat the casino.

Sadly...you will not heed my advice and will go on to lose your entire Bankroll and I will have wasted 10 mins of my life that I could have spent searching for my meds.

 

The choice is yours 

You are right , baccarat can be beaten by bet selection,

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6 hours ago, ozscouser1 said:

There is so much I could say, but I haven't taken my meds...and people don't like me much when I haven't taken my meds...so I'll bite my tongue because you seem like a nice enough kid.

But take it from me as a full time Baccarat/Roulette Player whose sole income is from beating the Casino at their own game...You will lose your entire Bankroll young fella...it's not a matter of "if"...it's only a matter of "when". 

You are not the first and definitely won't be the last player to think he has developed a mathematical plan to beat Baccarat. I did and probably most of this Forum did as well. Brilliant mathematical minds have tried and all have failed. Computer Geeks have tried and failed...There is no mathematical Formulae that will beat Baccarat long term.

 

So saying...Baccarat can be beaten by bet selection and you have stumbled on most likely the best Baccarat site on the Net. My suggestion to you (which you will no doubt ignore) is to invest $50 and join the Private section of the Forum and you will receive guidance from the best in the business and if you like what you see, you can continue paying a monthly subscription and if you put the same effort into learning how to beat Baccarat as you did in developing your system, you have every chance of joining the very few who beat the casino.

Sadly...you will not heed my advice and will go on to lose your entire Bankroll and I will have wasted 10 mins of my life that I could have spent searching for my meds.

 

The choice is yours 

 
 

Be honest all you want. You wouldn't be the only one who brought my method down.  I'll been honest all this time. My method first off is NOT a system. Systems fail. My method keeps a player in full control. The bigger the bankroll, the less chance the casino can take it.
I'll keep showing different shoes to show that my method is more than just numbers, bet selection, and keeping a positive mind set with goals.  

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5 hours ago, CT70 said:

Hi JMoney45,

Oz is probably the most accomplished player on this site. I would take his advice before you lose your bankroll.

Well I must give you credit, you are really trying hard to find a way to beat the casino. I admire that. I always say, you have to want or need something bad enough to conquer it and not give up no matter what.. Do you agree?

Although you may have been winning in all the shoes you played so far, it's only a matter of time before you incur that one shoe that does not conform to what you are doing, and you will lose your entire bankroll. There are hundreds of players on this website and all have at sometime or other tried to come up with a method that will beat the casino. Some have succeeded and are sharing their success and strategy here. Having to play with a bankroll of 2400 units is insane.   

Moreover, the online sites that you are using to practice use computer generated outcomes. You will find the outcomes are much different in a real casino. I am telling you this because I don't want you to incur a big loss when you actually do go to a casino. The cards in a real casino are MANIPULATED, card by card, to ensure outcomes that are anti trend. That's why people lose. So don't get your hopes up too much.

You should join this forum as a paid member and that would entitle you to the VinSap method developed by McVince who is one of our more experienced players. With your current bankroll of $2400, you could be betting $50 units comfortably and make 6 to 10 units per day. That's $500 a day. Isn't that better than making 100 unit bets? 

CT70

 

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I appreciate the fact that Oz is one of the most accomplished players on here.

I do agree with you on "you have to want or need something bad enough to conquer it and not give up no matter what"

I have mentioned before that I've practiced in many ways and includes online. Not just with VivoGambling. I also use 5Dimes too which is to me the most manipulated online casino when it comes to playing real cards. SO I'm already aware of the real cards ensuring the outcomes. I practiced in at least 3 times a day for 4 months. That's over 350 random shoes. I'll be honest here. The most I was ever down with a 2400-unit bankroll was 209 units and that was during the second month of practicing because this was before I created the 3-Strike Rule which has really helped me adjust before it is too late.

You do bring up a great point about working with $50 units and make 6 to 10 units a day. I'm not against that at all. On the other hand, if I would want to make $500 a day with my method, I would be working with at least $24 units. And keep in mind, I'm not being greedy with any game. As soon as I reach my short-term goal and it is not within 6 units of my mid-term goal, I WOULD BE DONE FOR THE DAY. Now I know I never mentioned this, but the goals I have mentioned all this time are MY PERSONAL GOALS. Everybody's goals can be different. SO in your case, if your goal was 10 units and you worked with any unit you want along with using my method, you'd reach your goal within your first 15 bets.
So nobody is wrong here. Everybody has their own way of playing in the casino. Some can be smart about and win or be greedy and lose. The only difference between me and this site is that I don't charge a Penny to learn this method. 

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I just now played my method in Roulette (Screenshots below)

I play Red as Player and Black as Banker. (I would treat Green Zero as a Tie)

With a Demo Account of $10,000, I worked with $1 units
Table limit $100-$500 (So my NEW base bet with be $101)

So here is how I would play my method with this situation:
 I would still work with the $1 units (10,000 units) and flat bet with the $100 units (100 units). So I'm combining 2 betting selections in one game.

So now you can see how my method goes to work in Roulette too!

As a Result,

$1 Units:
 I was able to Make $19.00 or 19 units Ahead------> $5 units would have made me $95 Profit

Flat Betting at $100 Units
 I was able to Make $100.00 or 1 unit Ahead

So overall, that equals to------> $119.00 PROFIT or 119 units ahead in $1 units

So this goes to show you that flat betting ALONE won't win every time. However, combining flat betting with my method, you can make a little extra.

Side Note: I only recommend COMBINING 2 Betting Selections ONLY if your Base Unit is LESS than the minimum table limit.

With this much ahead, I would leave the table!

Casino Roulette Results NOTES #1 12-8-2016.pdf

Casino Roulette Results #1.PNG

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Just completed an entire computer simulation shoe as I promised.

Amount provided----$10,000 and I worked with $5 units

Results are provided in the picture below and as you can see, it does win in computer simulations too.

Screenshot #1: My Short-Term Goal Reached
Screenshot #2: My Mid-Term Goal Reached
Screenshot #3: My Long-Term Goal Reached
Screenshot $4: How much made at the end of the shoe. (The history results reset before the last hand so please refer to My Notes for the rest of the results.

WizardofOdds Baccarat results 12-8-2016 #1.PNG

WizardofOdds Baccarat results  12-8-2016 #2.PNG

WizardofOdds Baccarat results  12-8-2016 #3.PNG

WizardofOdds Baccarat results  12-8-2016 #4.PNG

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OK...I'm through being nice...

Which part of "You don't know what the fuck you are talking about" ...don't you understand?

 

Which part of "The best mathematical brains in the world haven't been able to beat Baccarat"...don't you understand?

 

Which part of "The best Computer Geeks of our time can't design a program to beat Baccarat" don't you understand?

 

Which part of "I make my living from Baccarat and Roulette while you are playing stupid simulated kid's games"...don't you understand? 

 

Which part of "I have played countless thousands of shoes while you haven't even scratched the surface"...don't you understand?...350 random shoes...Pfft...LMFAO

 

READ MY LIPS...There are three certainties in life...Death...Taxes...and the fact that you will lose your entire Bankroll 

 

I no longer give a shit about you...I tried to steer you in the right direction but you choose to go your own way. You made your bed and you can lie in it. No regular on this site will be even the slightest bit interested in your shitty method. They aren't that stupid. My concern is for others that may not know much about Baccarat possibly being sucked in to believing that your Bullshit method will work and innocent people grasping at straws will lose serious money.

 

Baccarat can be beaten and this site will show how it's done and it costs a lousy $50 for the first month to check it out. And my message to anyone contemplating joining and are put off by the joining fee...If you can't afford $50 ...you can't afford to play Baccarat. 

 

I will waste no more of my valuable time on you

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20 minutes ago, ozscouser1 said:

OK...I'm through being nice...

Which part of "You don't know what the fuck you are talking about" ...don't you understand?

 

Which part of "The best mathematical brains in the world haven't been able to beat Baccarat"...don't you understand?

 

Which part of "The best Computer Geeks of our time can't design a program to beat Baccarat" don't you understand?

 

Which part of "I make my living from Baccarat and Roulette while you are playing stupid simulated kid's games"...don't you understand? 

 

Which part of "I have played countless thousands of shoes while you haven't even scratched the surface"...don't you understand?...350 random shoes...Pfft...LMFAO

 

READ MY LIPS...There are three certainties in life...Death...Taxes...and the fact that you will lose your entire Bankroll 

 

I no longer give a shit about you...I tried to steer you in the right direction but you choose to go your own way. You made your bed and you can lie in it. No regular on this site will be even the slightest bit interested in your shitty method. They aren't that stupid. My concern is for others that may not know much about Baccarat possibly being sucked in to believing that your Bullshit method will work and innocent people grasping at straws will lose serious money.

 

Baccarat can be beaten and this site will show how it's done and it costs a lousy $50 for the first month to check it out. And my message to anyone contemplating joining and are put off by the joining fee...If you can't afford $50 ...you can't afford to play Baccarat. 

 

I will waste no more of my valuable time on you

Your understanding is nothing but negative talk. Be negative all you want. I don't listen to negativity. You don't want to "waste" your time then just go.

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21 minutes ago, brad01 said:

I knew it was just a matter of time before Oz saw this post !.

I was already prepared for something like this. No worries at all.

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28 minutes ago, JMoney45 said:

Your understanding is nothing but negative talk. Be negative all you want. I don't listen to negativity. You don't want to "waste" your time then just go.

 

There is absolutely nothing that anyone on this site can learn from you except what not to do.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. You have never even set foot in a casino FFS!

You even daring to talk to members of this site about Baccarat is akin to a Kindergarten kid attending a University Lecture with his Mommy and trying to tell the Lecturer that he has it all wrong...That takes a special kind of "stupid"

I'm going to ease up on you now...I'm figuring that your Mommy most likely dropped you on your head as a baby and I should make allowances

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21 minutes ago, ozscouser1 said:

There is absolutely nothing that anyone on this site can learn from you except what not to do.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. You have never even set foot in a casino FFS!

You even daring to talk to members of this site about Baccarat is akin to a Kindergarten kid attending a University Lecture with his Mommy and trying to tell the Lecturer that he has it all wrong...That takes a special kind of "stupid"

I'm going to ease up on you now...I'm figuring that your Mommy most likely dropped you on your head as a baby and I should make allowances

haha all that negative talk just makes me and yet you are still here.

So I'm a stupid kindergarten and yet you talk like a middle school bully.

Thank you for the sense of humor

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7 hours ago, JMoney45 said:

Just completed an entire computer simulation shoe as I promised.

Amount provided----$10,000 and I worked with $5 units

Results are provided in the picture below and as you can see, it does win in computer simulations too.

Screenshot #1: My Short-Term Goal Reached
Screenshot #2: My Mid-Term Goal Reached
Screenshot #3: My Long-Term Goal Reached
Screenshot $4: How much made at the end of the shoe. (The history results reset before the last hand so please refer to My Notes for the rest of the results.

WizardofOdds Baccarat results 12-8-2016 #1.PNG

WizardofOdds Baccarat results  12-8-2016 #2.PNG

WizardofOdds Baccarat results  12-8-2016 #3.PNG

WizardofOdds Baccarat results  12-8-2016 #4.PNG

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This is a method to play. I use it long time ago, I hope that you will not encounter , win, lose, win, lose, win, lose , win , lose , win , lose situation. I am not saying it is not working, it can work for long term, may be you try not to bet every hand, chose a good set up then enter. 

Last time I use this type of method bought from internet e book, I bet every hand and lose , may be my bet selection is not good.

My advise to you is play with the money that you afford to lose and do not effect your daily life and your family , please ,please do not borrow money to play with

this method.

How long have you been playing with this method? I would like to know.

 

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7 minutes ago, William Looi said:

This is a method to play. I use it long time ago, I hope that you will not encounter , win, lose, win, lose, win, lose , win , lose , win , lose situation. I am not saying it is not working, it can work for long term, may be you try not to bet every hand, chose a good set up then enter. 

Last time I use this type of method bought from internet e book, I bet every hand and lose , may be my bet selection is not good.

My advise to you is play with the money that you afford to lose and do not effect your daily life and your family , please ,please do not borrow money to play with

this method.

How long have you been playing with this method? I would like to know.

 

thank you for your feedback. As I said in the beginning of this topic, I have been practicing this for 4 months going on 5. I did learn my lesson when I first started on getting a loan or invest money that I can afford to lose. That's why I spent 4 months practicing in multiple ways. So that's when I will realize once the money is right and the practices remain consistent, then I know that I can do this.

As for where to bet. My method does only bets banker, player, banker, player, etc in one strategy, which I did mention in the beginning (Double Dare strategy). All of my other strategies are based off of my own tendency count. Look through the results as you read everything on where I bet at certain situations.

 

I hope that answers your question.

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12 hours ago, William Looi said:

This is a method to play. I use it long time ago, I hope that you will not encounter , win, lose, win, lose, win, lose , win , lose , win , lose situation. I am not saying it is not working, it can work for long term, may be you try not to bet every hand, chose a good set up then enter. 

Last time I use this type of method bought from internet e book, I bet every hand and lose , may be my bet selection is not good.

My advise to you is play with the money that you afford to lose and do not effect your daily life and your family , please ,please do not borrow money to play with

this method.

How long have you been playing with this method? I would like to know.

 

You did well with this method, you keep on playing this way, It is good to play with internet gaming with $1 per bet.  casino in my country, minimum per bet is $200. Your way of playing is different it is ok to keep on playing that way, may be some other may interested in playing that way.

It is great to feel good to win most of the time. Have you double up your bankrow  already? How many times have you double up your bankrow?, When you have double up your bankrow my advice to you is do not double up your amount per bet. If your first bet is $3 first bet , do not double up your first bet to $6 may be can increase to $4 starting bet.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, William Looi said:

You did well with this method, you keep on playing this way, It is good to play with internet gaming with $1 per bet.  casino in my country, minimum per bet is $200. Your way of playing is different it is ok to keep on playing that way, may be some other may interested in playing that way.

It is great to feel good to win most of the time. Have you double up your bankrow  already? How many times have you double up your bankrow?, When you have double up your bankrow my advice to you is do not double up your amount per bet. If your first bet is $3 first bet , do not double up your first bet to $6 may be can increase to $4 starting bet.

 

 

 

Every results that you see on here are just practice but using online casinos and computer simulations.

You mentioned that you have casinos in your country that have $200 as minimum. Look at my results relating to  Roulette and see how you can operate with $1 units and flat betting at $200 at the same time.

Keep checking out more results that are on the way

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