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So for today, I'm going to work my method in a random shoe that I found through google search.

Shoe results as always will be in the attachments with my results

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Jordan "The Ballin' J-Money" Leturgez

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7 hours ago, JMoney45 said:

I appreciate you telling me why you shared your method to other gamblers. As long as it works for you, stick with it.

I do want to thank you for speaking your honest truth. I have no problem reading what is going through a person's mind.

I will address your comment that you said that is completely wrong. When I first started working my first 9-5 job, I was only making $300 per week. So for me having a mindset of making money from home, I want to be my own boss and the only way that I can do that is to start by making at least $100 per day on my own terms instead of in someone else's terms. I am all about working smarter instead of harder. I know that if I can turn a $300 per week hard-working job into making $300 per day in the comfort of my own home, then I know that I can make a difference for the next person who want to do the same. So I hope that addresses your concern.

I will also let you keep in mind that yes. My method can work with any amount per hand. Of course, if you were to use any of my betting strategies, people, who hear what the recommended amount in the bankroll is, would drive anybody crazy. Have at least 2,400 units total on $500 units would mean a bankroll amount of $1.2 million. Yes I know I will get hassled about that. But in my mind, if I had that kind of bankroll and I wanted to work with $500 units. +21 units (my short-term goal) would make me $10,500. If I were to play every day for 30 days and made exactly 21 units per day, that would be $315,000 in profits.

The thing is with me, I'm about able being able to make a better living at any given time and increase my bankroll at the same time. This is what I mean. If go back to what I said earlier about wanting to make $300 per day in the casino and I wanted to flat bet with $100 units, all I would need is just 3 units profit. The bankroll I would recommend in this case would be $2,000 (20 total units). If I am able to double that bankroll to $4,000, I would be happy with that. So If I played my other strategies and had 2400 units in my bankroll, I would be very happy if I reached 4800 units..

Now keep in mind that I have two Money Management Rules to go along with all of this in order for me to make a living and increase my bankroll at the same time.

Now me personally, I would rather just make $10,000 per month by the first week and not play until the next month. So for me working with $100 units, making at least 21 units in profits means at least $2,100 in profits. So ideally, that would take me at least 5 different shoes (or 5 days; 1 shoe per day) to make $10,000 in profits. Even if I made $5000 in profits, I would be perfectly okay with that too.

Now, if I were doing ONLY flat betting for instance, I would probably recommend having at least $10,000 in your bankroll. That's 20 units total if you are working with $500 units. When it comes to having a unit goal for every game you play, I would say have at least 3 units as your goal. That would be at least $1500 in profits.

As an example, if you want to make at least 4 units for every game you play, that means you would be able to double your $10,000 bankroll to $20,000 in 5 games without losing. It would take you at least 20 units profit to double your bankroll in this example. So by the time you have reached that goal, you would have 40 total units in your bankroll if you stick with flat betting at $500 units.

So keep in mind that all of my betting strategies are not play in every game. I like to switch strategies every now and then.

With all of that being said, I hope you were able to understand what I have tried to explain based off of your response. If you haven't, that's okay. Not everybody will learn something after one time. It takes practice which is what I have been doing all this time. Practice makes Excellence (Not perfect because nothing is perfect)

TBH,

      If something is working for you then keep at it.  I just don't see the need to limit your unit size because of a progression.  Why not play higher units for a lower win goal.  I for one have played $500 units and I have to tell you when you make 7k in three hours of work for weeks and weeks in a row and you are able to take your wife and kids on an awesome vacation and make enough money to put an addition on your home from playing this game, there is no better feeling in the world.  It isn't greed, it is being very skilled in your craft.  The more skilled you are, the more money you are going to make.   It is so much more that placing bets on P and B, it is having the knowledge of progressions and money management.  You probably have the talent to play this game.  I see that you have the desire.  You just don't have the money management down and looking at how you are betting, you are nowhere near having that capability.  The key to this game is exposing your money for the shortest time possible.  You flaunt it out there for the casino to just grab from you.  

      If you are offended by anything anyone has to say on here then you need thicker skin.  No one is trying to hurt you.  You have accomplished players like OZ and CT telling you that you are committing financial suicide in your method.   I will say with 100% confidence that you are NOT as accomplished as the upper echelon players in this forum.  When they are telling you something you need to listen.  Your losses will be catastrophic, and virtually impossible to recover from.  

      I know a guy that played the Frankenstein progression ( 1  3  8  17  36 ).  He could never grasp placing a bet and if that bet wins not be in the positive.  I have told him for years that it is suicide.  He would always text me the chips in his hand showing me how much he won.  I told him the biggest fan of that progression is the casinos.  On two separate occasions he had three straight losing sessions.  He was playing $50 units needing $3200 for his progression, yeah it ain't pretty.  

       Young man, I am probably speaking for the members of the forum when I say that your progression doesn't make sense.  It is not worth it to me to spend the amount of money that you are exposing.  But when all else is said, you are not playing with my money so I really don't care what kind of progression you play with.  I hope you do very well and prove everyone wrong but if you lose all you have and can't recover, I will just flip myself over and fall right back to sleep.   

  

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9 minutes ago, McVince said:

TBH,

      If something is working for you then keep at it.  I just don't see the need to limit your unit size because of a progression.  Why not play higher units for a lower win goal.  I for one have played $500 units and I have to tell you when you make 7k in three hours of work for weeks and weeks in a row and you are able to take your wife and kids on an awesome vacation and make enough money to put an addition on your home from playing this game, there is no better feeling in the world.  It isn't greed, it is being very skilled in your craft.  The more skilled you are, the more money you are going to make.   It is so much more that placing bets on P and B, it is having the knowledge of progressions and money management.  You probably have the talent to play this game.  I see that you have the desire.  You just don't have the money management down and looking at how you are betting, you are nowhere near having that capability.  The key to this game is exposing your money for the shortest time possible.  You flaunt it out there for the casino to just grab from you.  

      If you are offended by anything anyone has to say on here then you need thicker skin.  No one is trying to hurt you.  You have accomplished players like OZ and CT telling you that you are committing financial suicide in your method.   I will say with 100% confidence that you are NOT as accomplished as the upper echelon players in this forum.  When they are telling you something you need to listen.  Your losses will be catastrophic, and virtually impossible to recover from.  

      I know a guy that played the Frankenstein progression ( 1  3  8  17  36 ).  He could never grasp placing a bet and if that bet wins not be in the positive.  I have told him for years that it is suicide.  He would always text me the chips in his hand showing me how much he won.  I told him the biggest fan of that progression is the casinos.  On two separate occasions he had three straight losing sessions.  He was playing $50 units needing $3200 for his progression, yeah it ain't pretty.  

       Young man, I am probably speaking for the members of the forum when I say that your progression doesn't make sense.  It is not worth it to me to spend the amount of money that you are exposing.  But when all else is said, you are not playing with my money so I really don't care what kind of progression you play with.  I hope you do very well and prove everyone wrong but if you lose all you have and can't recover, I will just flip myself over and fall right back to sleep.   

  

 

I appreciate your honest. I will inform you that I do discuss my own way of using money management and what betting strategies I use in the very beginning of this topic. If there is anything that you don't understand PLEASE be specific on what it is that doesn't make sense to you and I will break it down with examples. To clear things up. I am not offended about what anybody says on here. I already knew that people will speak their minds about this since they think they are better than me. Don;t bother me one bit. But what really bothers me is when someone else wants to learn at least one thing within my method and yet those other people disrespect them. That is not necessary.

It sounds like to me that this Frankenstein progression sounds similar to mind but not completely. My Control Baccarat Strategy progression is base bet+2+3+5+8+13+21+etc and then repeat the last winning bet. That first key for this strategy is to win 2 in a row. After winning that second winning bet in a row, That's when I can determine if I can go back to my base bet and restart the progression or Go into what I call Recovery Loss/Profit Mode (all explained in the beginning of this topic)

You do bring up a great point about wanting to make $7,000 on $500 units. But for me, If I ever want to work with $500 units, I would only do flat betting or a 1-2 progression that I created (1 unit as base bet and 2 units as winning bet). That can still get me to make at least $3000 in profits for every game I play. Great point though on that.

So sir, you probably are speaking for other members in this forum. But that fine, I want to be at least noticed. If none of this is worth your time to learn/understand, then no harm done. No hard feelings. We move on and not turning back.

Thank you once again for you true honesty.

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It sounds like to me that this Frankenstein progression sounds similar to mind but not completely. My Control Baccarat Strategy progression is base bet+2+3+5+8+13+21+etc and then repeat the last winning bet. That first key for this strategy is to win 2 in a row. After winning that second winning bet in a row, That's when I can determine if I can go back to my base bet and restart the progression or Go into what I call Recovery Loss/Profit Mode (all explained in the beginning of this topic)

You do bring up a great point about wanting to make $7,000 on $500 units. But for me, If I ever want to work with $500 units, I would only do flat betting or a 1-2 progression that I created (1 unit as base bet and 2 units as winning bet). That can still get me to make at least $3000 in profits for every game I play. Great point though on that.

#1. 

That betting strategy is based off of Fibonacci.

 

#2

That is not a progression that you created.  It is a progression that is well known amongst high stake players.  

 

#3

That second progression is what everyone is trying to tell you. 

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6 minutes ago, McVince said:

It sounds like to me that this Frankenstein progression sounds similar to mind but not completely. My Control Baccarat Strategy progression is base bet+2+3+5+8+13+21+etc and then repeat the last winning bet. That first key for this strategy is to win 2 in a row. After winning that second winning bet in a row, That's when I can determine if I can go back to my base bet and restart the progression or Go into what I call Recovery Loss/Profit Mode (all explained in the beginning of this topic)

You do bring up a great point about wanting to make $7,000 on $500 units. But for me, If I ever want to work with $500 units, I would only do flat betting or a 1-2 progression that I created (1 unit as base bet and 2 units as winning bet). That can still get me to make at least $3000 in profits for every game I play. Great point though on that.

#1. 

That betting strategy is based off of Fibonacci.

 

#2

That is not a progression that you created.  It is a progression that is well known amongst high stake players.  

 

#3

That second progression is what everyone is trying to tell you. 

 

#1 Only difference between mine and Fibonacci is that I have Recovery Loss/Profit Mode included (if I lost my second bet after first win, that unit amount that I lost would be my new base and I restart the progression until I am in the plus (+)).

#2 It is something that I created because I have the option to break the unit amount in half on my next bet after the first win (Depends on my unit count).

#3 Everybody is talking about the 1-2 progression by itself. Mine also include 3-4 progression whenever I am in a break even situation.

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4 minutes ago, JMoney45 said:

#1 Only difference between mine and Fibonacci is that I have Recovery Loss/Profit Mode included (if I lost my second bet after first win, that unit amount that I lost would be my new base and I restart the progression until I am in the plus (+)).

He didn't say it was Fib, just that it is BASED on Fib.  There are ENDLESS books and systems that have created progressions BASED on Fib.  Yes, there are even several that ALSO employ two winning bets to recover from a string of losses, AS WELL as adjustments to the progression when the first, but not the second of the recovery bets wins. 

6 minutes ago, JMoney45 said:

#2 It is something that I created because I have the option to break the unit amount in half on my next bet after the first win (Depends on my unit count).

Nope, not created by you.  Players who have studied hundreds of approaches and read everything about baccarat will recognize almost every part of what you are doing in bet selection and in betting progressions.

This is not a criticism -- there is nothing wrong with taking the best bits from a bunch of proven winning approaches and making it work for you.  You don't have the experience to know this, but you are in fact taking some of the most dangerous bits out there and ignoring the very best advice you could get to make you a real winner.

You have the passion and confidence it takes to be successful.  Remains to be seen if you have the humility and learning agility necessary.  It's not easy.  You will have to put aside you natural tendancy to behave like a motivational speaker and hustling promoter and instead actually listen.   Also, you won't get what you need out here in the public forum -- great place for hustling promoters to hang out -- not so good for anyone really interested in improving their game and building a lifetime of success.

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I got bored in the office today so I figured I would share with everyone another shoe with my results

This shoe I also found through Dr. Tom's Live Results on his website bacdoctor.com (So his results will be provided as well). See attachments for shoe results (PDF FILE) and my results

Remember....

Short-Term Goal-----> 21 units; Mid-term Goal----->33 units; Long-term Goal -----> 45 units

HWC-12-26-15.pdf

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10 minutes ago, way2fast said:

He didn't say it was Fib, just that it is BASED on Fib.  There are ENDLESS books and systems that have created progressions BASED on Fib.  Yes, there are even several that ALSO employ two winning bets to recover from a string of losses, AS WELL as adjustments to the progression when the first, but not the second of the recovery bets wins. 

Nope, not created by you.  Players who have studied hundreds of approaches and read everything about baccarat will recognize almost every part of what you are doing in bet selection and in betting progressions.

This is not a criticism -- there is nothing wrong with taking the best bits from a bunch of proven winning approaches and making it work for you.  You don't have the experience to know this, but you are in fact taking some of the most dangerous bits out there and ignoring the very best advice you could get to make you a real winner.

You have the passion and confidence it takes to be successful.  Remains to be seen if you have the humility and learning agility necessary.  It's not easy.  You will have to put aside you natural tendancy to behave like a motivational speaker and hustling promoter and instead actually listen.   Also, you won't get what you need out here in the public forum -- great place for hustling promoters to hang out -- not so good for anyone really interested in improving their game and building a lifetime of success.

Way2Fast, this guy is Way2Out there.  I am done.  He doesn't grasp the EXTREME effort of everyone to steer him away from what he is doing.  Life's best lessons are learned through experience.   My last post on here and I suggest the same for everyone else.  We all have better things to do.  Good Luck J and Happy Holidays to you and your family.  

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17 minutes ago, way2fast said:

He didn't say it was Fib, just that it is BASED on Fib.  There are ENDLESS books and systems that have created progressions BASED on Fib.  Yes, there are even several that ALSO employ two winning bets to recover from a string of losses, AS WELL as adjustments to the progression when the first, but not the second of the recovery bets wins. 

Nope, not created by you.  Players who have studied hundreds of approaches and read everything about baccarat will recognize almost every part of what you are doing in bet selection and in betting progressions.

This is not a criticism -- there is nothing wrong with taking the best bits from a bunch of proven winning approaches and making it work for you.  You don't have the experience to know this, but you are in fact taking some of the most dangerous bits out there and ignoring the very best advice you could get to make you a real winner.

You have the passion and confidence it takes to be successful.  Remains to be seen if you have the humility and learning agility necessary.  It's not easy.  You will have to put aside you natural tendancy to behave like a motivational speaker and hustling promoter and instead actually listen.   Also, you won't get what you need out here in the public forum -- great place for hustling promoters to hang out -- not so good for anyone really interested in improving their game and building a lifetime of success.

 
 

I'm not promoting anything. Only sharing results just like everyone else. I don't care if I don't get any positive feedback or negative feedback need in a public forum. No feedback wouldn't bother me either. At least I am open to the public instead of keeping private like most people.

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7 minutes ago, McVince said:

Way2Fast, this guy is Way2Out there.  I am done.  He doesn't grasp the EXTREME effort of everyone to steer him away from what he is doing.  Life's best lessons are learned through experience.   My last post on here and I suggest the same for everyone else.  We all have better things to do.  Good Luck J and Happy Holidays to you and your family.  

 

Happy Holidays to you and your family too

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5 minutes ago, JMoney45 said:

I'm not promoting anything. Only sharing results just like everyone else. I don't care if I don't get any positive feedback or negative feedback need in a public forum. No feedback wouldn't bother me either. At least I am open to the public instead of keeping private like most people.

Answers my questions.  Wish you all the best with your business.

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3 minutes ago, way2fast said:

Answers my questions.  Wish you all the best with your business.

Wishing you and everyone the best as well the best as well

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