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21 minutes ago, Blitz said:

I dont know, does he really thinks after all this years playing baccarat with that great IQ that mechanical system that plays every hand can beat bacc easilly, or he knows that majority of peoples look for system like that ?

I think Ellis is too experienced and too smart to believe it.  He would tell you its what his students want (a simple system that plays every hand), so he is just a system designer fulfilling a demand.  Philosophically I have a problem with an approach that avoids teaching students how to WIN just because it may take some work and be a little harder than we all wish it was.

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I could not agree more with that statement.  The best teacher I ever had, shared the truth of..."it's one thing to know what to do, and quite another matter in knowing HOW to.  The teacher/leader, mus

Absolute rubbish...it was two shoes playing red and green. The question has to be asked...Why would you be still be playing red and green chips after playing an invincible system for several days

I think Ellis is too experienced and too smart to believe it.  He would tell you its what his students want (a simple system that plays every hand), so he is just a system designer fulfilling a demand

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Maybe the same reason why we are still driving internal combustion oil dependant cars and why we haven't got a cure for cancer and many other illnesses

What we do get is a slightly more efficient engine available at a higher price or a more effective pharmaceutical drug available at a higher price

We keep hoping and we keep paying but all we ever get is the next best thing available at a higher price.

And all the while its worth more money to some people to never actually present something that works too well.

 

Fortunately with baccarat you can research in your own lab (your home) and design your own strategy that will be as close to the HG FOR YOU as you can get

Just takes time, persistence, and practise - maybe 2 - 3 years I would suggest

Of course wise men learn by their mistakes but wiser men learn from keen observation so if you read every post on this site It will cut down your research and design time greatly.

 

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On 5/15/2017 at 4:30 PM, way2fast said:

Philosophically I have a problem with an approach that avoids teaching students how to WIN just because it may take some work and be a little harder than we all wish it was.

I could not agree more with that statement.  The best teacher I ever had, shared the truth of..."it's one thing to know what to do, and quite another matter in knowing HOW to.  The teacher/leader, must not only teach WHAT, they must also teach HOW TO."   "The WHAT is easy.....the HOW TO is where the work and learning takes place.  

example.....I knew I had to repair and remodel my place after a tree fell on it and damaged it. That's the WHAT.   I didn't know how to in some regards.  So I had to learn HOW TO.  I gave free week of labor to a carpenter if he would show me how to build outside and inside walls.  I gave a free week of labor to a plumber if he would show me how to run and attach plumbing from an outside water source into the house.  Lastly I gave a free week of labor to an electrician if he would show me how to run the electric from outlets to light sockets, etc.  

So it's both....the "What" and "How to" teacher that is the best there is.  It's not about telling someone "WHAT" to do.....it's teaching and showing them "HOW TO".   

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I played a shoe with ANB yesterday EXACTLY according to the ANB rules. 

H10 -13 with a 6 bet due (to be fair...it won but that means your STOP/LOSS has to be -19 to make that bet)

H22 -27 with a 7 unit bet due (which it also won...S/L -34...but then lost the following 5 unit bet which everything I know about Baccarat was screaming at me not to make but ANB says the bet had to be made)

It really takes a special kind of system to get to -27 in 22 hands...

H22...17 actual bets made...4 WINNING BETS!!!...FFS...I could get my dog to crap on my scorecard and do better than that...

For those still considering purchasing ANB...Trust me...The purchase price is the least of your worries...Read my lips... "ANB IS A LICENCE TO LOSE MONEY"... Caveat emptor

 

So saying...My mentor has discovered a way to make ANB work but at best it would give the worshipers of "He who must be adored" a huge headache...requires way too much thought for their feeble brains...LOL 

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52 minutes ago, ozscouser1 said:

I played a shoe with ANB yesterday EXACTLY according to the ANB rules. 

H10 -13 with a 6 bet due (to be fair...it won but that means your STOP/LOSS has to be -19 to make that bet)

H22 -27 with a 7 unit bet due (which it also won...S/L -34...but then lost the following 5 unit bet which everything I know about Baccarat was screaming at me not to make but ANB says the bet had to be made)

It really takes a special kind of system to get to -27 in 22 hands...

H22...17 actual bets made...4 WINNING BETS!!!...FFS...I could get my dog to crap on my scorecard and do better than that...

For those still considering purchasing ANB...Trust me...The purchase price is the least of your worries...Read my lips... "ANB IS A LICENCE TO LOSE MONEY"... Caveat emptor

 

So saying...My mentor has discovered a way to make ANB work but at best it would give the worshipers of "He who must be adored" a huge headache...requires way too much thought for their feeble brains...LOL 

Maybe you didnt played right shoe

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35 minutes ago, Blitz said:

Maybe you didnt played right shoe

LOL...:lol:

My Mentor has since scrapped his improved ANB...as far as I am concerned, his Baccarat Brain is equal to the "best of the best"...If he can't make ANB work...I doubt anyone can.

Watch for extreme editing and censorship of CFC Posts as more and more people discover the truth.

 

 Caveat emptor

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1 hour ago, ozscouser1 said:

I played a shoe with ANB yesterday EXACTLY according to the ANB rules. 

H10 -13 with a 6 bet due (to be fair...it won but that means your STOP/LOSS has to be -19 to make that bet)

H22 -27 with a 7 unit bet due (which it also won...S/L -34...but then lost the following 5 unit bet which everything I know about Baccarat was screaming at me not to make but ANB says the bet had to be made)

It really takes a special kind of system to get to -27 in 22 hands...

H22...17 actual bets made...4 WINNING BETS!!!...FFS...I could get my dog to crap on my scorecard and do better than that...

For those still considering purchasing ANB...Trust me...The purchase price is the least of your worries...Read my lips... "ANB IS A LICENCE TO LOSE MONEY"... Caveat emptor

 

So saying...My mentor has discovered a way to make ANB work but at best it would give the worshipers of "He who must be adored" a huge headache...requires way too much thought for their feeble brains...LOL 

 

A new, "world's greatest", system is released and everyone wants to focus on how many units it can win.  It's human nature -- we want to win and we are optimistic, so when we hear a system won 20 units in one shoe and 30 units in another, we want to believe the best system has been found and all we have to do now is go play in mechanically in a live casino and play the same type of shoes.  What is forgotten is that the "casino" was not born yesterday.  They are ruthless protectors of their money and they will welcome the opportunity to strip you of your very last dollar without batting an eye.

When I look at ways to play the game, rather than focusing on the type of shoe or event pattern the system "works" on, I prefer to understand what can happen if things are not going according to plan (which happens in the real casino world).

Take ANB.  The developer acknowledges it won't beat every shoe, but he attributes that to just "being unlucky"  ( seems a little naïve!).  He also says it or OTBL will win every shoe (also a bit naïve), but that you should stick with ANB at least until after you have lost a 6 unit bet (I will withhold my views as a professional about even contemplating making a 6 unit bet).

So what does it take to get to that 6 unit bet, and how much will you have lost at that point when decide to switch systems?  Turns out its not so difficult to get to that 6 unit bet, and when you do you could be down -32 units already.  Consider a not so unique shoe pattern of B122311222.  Playing ANB you make and lose a 6 unit bet on hand 16, to go down -32 units, having made just 11 bets in those 16 hands.

The measure of a system is not how much you MIGHT win, but how much you MIGHT lose and whether you are wiling to accept that win/loss trade-off.  For me, playing a system where I can lose $32,000 or more in 11 bets is unacceptable, and illogical when it is relatively routine to win several thousand in those same number of hands.  For each his own.

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Oz is right.  2 shoes means nothing    They were VERY lucky those 2 shoes were not what it loses to.   And is about 50/50   I have tested it extensively myself at home and on real casino shoes,  my casino here.  It is 50/50   Some shoes does great, some shoes it is a train wreck   It is too dangerous   With a 50/50 overal  shoes won vs lost

 

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10 hours ago, way2fast said:

 

 

So what does it take to get to that 6 unit bet, and how much will you have lost at that point when decide to switch systems?  Turns out its not so difficult to get to that 6 unit bet, and when you do you could be down -32 units already.  Consider a not so unique shoe pattern of B122311222 Playing ANB you make and lose a 6 unit bet on hand 16, to go down -32 units, having made just 11 bets in those 16 hands.

 

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LOL...You are right on the money my friend...My ANB disaster started with P1 1 2 2 3...

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I gotta stop checking the Forum that cannot be named unless I'm wearing a raincoat. I swear there is more dribble coming out of those guys than my neighbor's Great Dane when my Retriever Bitch was on Heat.

The question was asked by "He who must be adored" Would someone work out the hit rate for ANB starting at H2?...I'd really like to know the figures. WTF!!!:lol: Which part of..."You just tried to flog off ANB as the "Invincible" system to end all systems and the Piece de resistance of TFW and you haven't already checked that" ...don't you understand?...It beggars belief.

But never fear...our favourite underwear sniffer was right on the job (the same one who tested MvD and guaranteed that it was the Ultimate System) and he came up with some interesting figures (which I don't believe) ...but if I did...anyone who had studied Kindergarten Maths would confirm that the only possible way that his figures would work would be if he was operating with a Stop/Loss of -44 units on his losing shoes. Seriously...this idiot is giving people advice?...BTW...I would have expected someone with a 160 IQ to have picked up on that...LMFAO

Seriously...I will be devastated when the other Forum shuts up shop. I find it even more amusing than my 93 year old father-in-law losing his grip on my mother-in-law's wheelchair last week and chasing her down the inclined travelator. (she wasn't hurt, so I'm allowed to laugh...I'm a hard-hearted old bastard, but not that hard...LOL)

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is that a sign of a guy with a high IQ? outright STUPID! it's just a waste of time arguing with a stubborn brain-dead tub of shit.I was the first one to established that ANB already LOSES

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Guys, 

this is too funny to be ignored!

from the site "that cannot be named":

" ANB needs a full shoe. It tends to build up kinetic energy in the first half of the shoe which it releases in the second half "

..so why simply don't bet after decision 35?   LMFAO

...THE FORCE BE WITH YOU, LUKE SKYWALKER!

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yeah.

I was pretty good at science in school

Kinetic energy is energy in motion so you don't build kinetic energy you build potential energy

This may simply be a typo error in the description

But if you were to analyse a shoe in the first half that would be like building potential energy and then if you were to play it in the second half that would be kinetic energy - I get that

Or maybe it refers to momentum where in the first half of the shoe you bet carefully gauging the characteristics and in the second half you bet more units or more hands -  I also understand that.

 

 

 

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Nooo, my friend.

ANB is a self driving system.

The force being with you!

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18 hours ago, wolfat said:

Guys, 

this is too funny to be ignored!

from the site "that cannot be named":

" ANB needs a full shoe. It tends to build up kinetic energy in the first half of the shoe which it releases in the second half "

..so why simply don't bet after decision 35?   LMFAO

...THE FORCE BE WITH YOU, LUKE SKYWALKER!

I get it now I think...it's good that you lose in the first part of the shoe so that you have to make big bets to recover...:confused:

 

err...I was wrong...I don't get it...DUH:huh:

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1 hour ago, wolfat said:

Nooo, my friend.

ANB is a self driving system.

The force being with you!

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Is that like a Google Self Driving car?...Just asking...

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On 5/29/2017 at 5:35 AM, brad01 said:

pretty much

you just keep betting more chips every time you lose and eventually you will win

No thought required!

It works!!!!! If you are the Casino Owner.

 

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...sorry but are you talking about a system from invincible collection?

from Customers Fuc...ing Cheated forum?

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