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Hello all, I get these questions a lot in some Facebook and Reddit groups I have joined.....so I did a write up to answer them.

Paid side members: This is more of an introductory post for those folks viewing the public side of Beat The Casino but your comments are welcome!

 

3 Most common questions.....

Question: “Can I use the app without joining BTC” “Will it help me even if I do not join?”

Question: “Why can’t I just record this on a spreadsheet?” “Why can’t I just code my own spreadsheet to do this?”

Question: “Why can’t I just do this myself on paper?”

 

The Ultimate Baccarat App…and introduction.

“The app” is designed to automatically play multiple systems (I will call them tools hereafter) and statistics. It records the win/loss of each tool and presents WHAT IS WORKING RIGHT NOW to the user, so the user can make a good decision. Baccarat is 50/50, at BTC we focus on using different tools to expose variance/anomalies in that 50/50 “normal.”

 

Question: “Can I use the app without joining BTC” “Will it help me even if I do not join?” 

The quick answer – The app is a great starting point. You can simply follow the recommendations on the dashboard and get good results. But there is more to be had…..

The deeper answer – The app calculates its analysis based on the tools developed and proven out by BTC members over years of study. Some of the tools are very nuanced when you take a deep dive into them. When you learn the nuance, you begin to really “UNDERSTAND” what the shoe is telling you. I call it “speaking the shoes language.” When and if you want to get that deeper understanding, you can ask questions, talk and discuss these tools on the forum. @kachatz1 even posts his cell phone, you can call him and go play in Vegas. The app enables all users to get the benefit of very advanced tracking and statistical tools right off the bat. The users can simply use these tools via the app or join BTC to take the deep dive into learning the nuance to become a complete baccarat player. Either way, the app makes these advanced baccarat tools are available to all players who own it.

But your best chance of becoming a word class baccarat player is joining BTC

 

Question: “Why can’t I just record this on a spreadsheet?” “Why can’t I just code my own spreadsheet to do this?”

Sure you can - You’ll need to join BTC to learn the nuance of each tool and spend your time writing the code. You’ll need to learn how each relates to each other. In my case that has taken me since about 2013…maybe I’m a slow learner 😊 Timewise, I have approximately 2000 hours into this app and it’s approximately 35,000 lines of code at this point. On the baccarat tools development side, programmed into the app is the decades of experience from players like @kachatz1, @Keith Smith and 100’s of other members who have developed and proven out these tools over the past 10 years or so. You just can't start typing code and have a deep understanding of the tools unless you do the hard study and research here on BTC.

 

The Ultimate Baccarat App Tools - Let’s take a very high level look at them through the lens of an example shoe…

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This shoe is the shoe in the app screenshots below.

5D – Expanded to 15D – (On the app you see this 7D and 7D+) This tool tracks the opposites and repeats of the current hand compared to hands 1-15 back, plus Player/Banker disparity. The 5D tool was created by one of the most highly regarded BTC members @kachatz1. The manual is a free download. 15D is an expansion of @kachatz1 original idea with some additional support from a baccarat buddy up in the Great White North. 5D is, in my opinion (and everybody has one right 😊) the best way to adapt and expose betting opportunities in each shoe. It is just difficult to score quickly and accurately. There are only a few BTC members who can track it the casino. 

Below, in the screenshot, you can see, we are tracking the current hand and comparing it to previous hands. In other words, is the current hand opposite of 13 back, or is the current hand a repeat of 13 back.

As you can see, this exposes what we call disparities. Baccarat is 50/50, at BTC we look for those short-term anomalies in the “50/50” nature of baccarat. For example, look at the disparity group for O3/R3 and further… O13/R13. In each case the leading disparity has doubled (practically) its sister disparity. This has exposed an anomaly to play. O3/R3 SHOULD be 50/50 in baccarat but…. In this shoe it is not. 5D (expanded to 15D) helps expose those anomalies.

Red means one disparity is “Hot” vs the other. This is a setting the user can adjust. The “hot” status is set in this case when 3 of the last 3 events have won, vs it’s sister event (Opposite Vs Repeat).

 

Question: “Why can’t I just do this myself on paper?”

You can – But there are very few who can. @kachatz1 is a math whiz who can do it accurately at casino speed and it is not easy…however it is worth the time and effort to learn how to do it, I encourage everyone to learn 5D.

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V87 – The V87 solution was created again by @kachatz1 as a simpler 5D. In baccarat, event lengths of 1, 2 and 3 account for 87% of all the events in baccarat. V87 only tracks those 3 event lengths. It tracks if “1s stay 1” or 1’s goes to 2     2s stay 2 or 2’s go to 3  etc..   for Player, Banker and the combined shoe aggregate.

Here is where we get into the power of the app. Lets go back to the question….

Question: “Why can’t I just do this myself on paper?”

As you can see in the example shoe below, there were no strong disparities in V87. In terms of 1’s 2’s and 3’s everything was just about equal. So….Lets say the player is tracking V87… there isn’t much here to bet. But had the player been tracking 15D (above) they would have seen the great betting opportunities presented by R3/O3 and R13/O13.

Yes…you can track V87, yes you can track 5D …  can you track both (and others) at the same time? Then analyze which one is winning and losing?

 V87 didn’t expose an anomaly in this shoe…. Using the app, the user can see this and ignore V87, using 15D instead.

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ST – Statistical Tracking – @Keith Smith, the owner of BeatTheCasino.com, is educated in statistics. He is a six sigma certified statistical analysis expert. @Keith Smith (and @kachatz1 a while back) has been deep diving into this question for decades….

“What can the hand scores tell us about the shoe and how can we use that to make good betting decisions.”

With the app, we have an easy way to enter hand scores then automatically calculate statistics based on those hand scores…. And it does matter. Over the years and 1000’s of shoes@Keith Smith has played he has identified statistical “trends” that can help baccarat players identify choppy shoe sections, strong side, shoe changes and many other potential anomalies in a shoe, also baked in is “recommendations” based on the the shoe scores….

 

Note: This is not the shoe from above, I didn’t have the hand scores for it.

As you can see in the screenshot below on the ST tab… hand scores are easily entered. Here is what you are seeing.

1.       A rolling average telling you the up-to-date hand score average (not the shoe average).

2.       Green, Yellow and Red Arrows – To make high number, middle number and low number hands easily identifiable. In addition you see the “alert indicator” showing the user when there are runs of 3 “groups” of scores. This is adjustable in settings.

3.       At hand 3, the app is telling you Player is strong….a strong side recommendation is made.

4.       Hand 7, A Player/Banker recommendation is being made on player.

There are other recommendations as well.

 

Now...back to the questions….

Question: “Why can’t I just do this myself on paper?”

Again, can you track all 3 tools, 15D, V87 and ST between hands? Then keep track of W/L for each one and analyze which one is performing the best? Now we have 3 tools available to use. If 15D is not working and V87 is not working…. ST might be……

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 The Dashboard – With all this information floating around…. Can it get confusing? Yep, so I’ve consolidated it on the dashboard and in addition, created a set of recommendations based on all the other statistics.

What you see below is as follows.

1.       On the bottom… the V87 Statistics for combined or player/banker. An indicator telling the user if that V87 stat is hot / cold / neutral plus the next “correct” play if the user wants to make a play based on the V87 tool.

2.       TBL/OTBL – This is the running TBL/OTBL count in the shoe.

3.       On top, "All Dsp" "All +V87"  "<<ST Avg" etc… These are recommendations based on the 15D recommendations and the 15D recommendations cross referenced against V87 and ST recommendations.

The user can also get current hit rate stats for every recommendation by long clicking on the recommendation.

As you can see in this shoe, the V87 recommendations didn’t present many opportunities but All DSP did.

By using many tools. It gives us a chance to identify as many good betting opportunities as possible

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There is another tool called ORE but out of respect to it's creator @BronxAl we only describe it on the private side.

 

Summary –

1.       Baccarat is 50/50 – At BTC we focus on finding short term anomalies in the 50/50 system.

2.       There is no “holy grail” “one size fits all” system. There are however, several tools that can be used to identify anomalies. But as you can see above, nothing works all the time.

3.       The app, automatically calculates many tools and statistics to identify WHAT IS WORKING AT THIS TIME.

 

So back to the questions:

Question: “Can I use the app without joining BTC” “Will it help me even if I do not join?” Yes and yes but.....

You can indeed play the app, and follow along with the dashboard recommendations, 15D V87, ST without understanding any of the above. However…if you take the deep dive to truly UNDERSTAND each tool you will be the better for it. The best way to take the deep dive is to join BTC so you can discuss all the tools, ask questions, talk and meet with players etc.

 

 Question: “Why can’t I just record this on a spreadsheet?” “Why can’t I just code my own spreadsheet to do this?”

Yes…you can if you want to spend the YEARS to learn all the tools and write the code. The app is more sophisticated than spreadsheet tracking. Especially when you consider it plays multiple systems at the same time, keeps track of W/L for each tool to identify what is performing the best then presenting it to the user in a way that can be consumed between hands of baccarat.

 

Question: “Why can’t I just do this myself on paper?”

Again, can you track all 3 tools, 15D, V87 and ST between hands? Then keep track of W/L for each one and analyze which one is performing the best?
 

Thanks for the questions and support!

 

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Anyone fortunate enough to see this clearly,  the APP ( as explained by XDN in the above post) is a remarkable work of Baccarat Science, made into a piece of Baccarat Art. 
 

          - In short, it is PROFOUND

(WE ALL HAVE SOME KIND OF PLATE WE EAT OFF OF, BUT HOW MANY OF US CAN TRULY POSSESS A COLLECTION OF FINE CHINA DINNERWARE….FOR EVERY DAY DINING?)

Well, here’s your chance !!

I’ve known XDN for 5+ years now , and the APP he developed in concert with the owner of this forum, and with inputs from many of our BTC members, exceeds any tool I could have possibly imagined would be made available for purchase by Baccarat Players all over the world, and at such a minimal investment !!

For those of you wondering about your return-on-investment, a simple calculation using your average bet unit amount($5, 10, 25…whatever) , and factoring a minimum of 5-10-15% increase in your ‘Hit Rate’ ( a comparison of how many bets Won, versus how many total bets made) , you will quickly discover just how valuable this Baccarat tool is! Do the math…your bankroll will love you back!

     - In short, it is one of the most complete, well engineered Baccarat tools available to those who possess it, who will suddenly feel as if they have come upon their own YELLOW BRICK ROAD ( and if you are curious about what the Yellow Brick Road ‘ signifies’, or maybe just what’s-up with all those friggin’ monkeys….you can do your own google search on what The Wizard Of Oz movie was really about…) 

      - I’ll  go so far as to says it most definitely ranks among the best-of-the best Baccarat tools invented in the 21st century. What’s more, it is designed for Baccarat players of all ability levels, from beginner to professional .

 

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, AND GET IT TODAY…YOU WONT REGRET IT.

 

 

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Next, let me put in my own 2cents-worth about the questions ( and answers) form XDN’s post.

And let me start by saying I am a member of the BTC forum, and have nothing to do with ownership of same…But I do have a personal interest in helping as many players improve their play as I possibly can.

WHY WOULD I DO THAT? Simple…If I had just discovered the BTC forum earlier than I did in 2010, I would have saved myself countless hours of frustration, avoided 100’s of losing sessions, and become a much more well- rounded player far earlier in my life than I did. 
 

OK, so I discovered BTC, and over the course of the last 12 years come to realize that if I could just pass on to others what I have learned, I needed to pay-it-forward…so that they would have the chance to create their own toolbox of HOW TO WIN $$ PLAYING BACCARAT.

I think I have done that, and will continue for as long as I am able to…

So , back to XDN’s answers to the FAQ’s he receives about The APP.

His answers were so well-explained,

                      so straightforward,

                                  so direct and so honest, 

that nothing I could add would help you make up your mind about whether The App is right for you or not.

EXCEPT THIS: 

Think about how long it would take you to do/ or even come close to doing what he has accomplished

                          how many hours,

                                          how much frustration you would experience….

AND WITHOUT THE BTC FORUM MEMBERSHIP TO PAVE THE WAY FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING THE ‘ROOT CAUSE’  OF WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOES’NT, AND THE ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY??

I mentioned earlier a bit about my own path towards Baccarat Success.

I tried plenty on my own. I read books. I spent thousands of $$ on “ systems”, lost a lot of money.  Until I became a member of the BTC forum, and the lightbulbs started to turn on, on-by-one , and in fairly short order I realized I had the chance to ascend the ‘Stairway to Baccarat Heaven’ ( nothing religious here, just have a listen to LedZeppelin’s 1971 Stairway To Heaven song….50 years ago, and they were talking about Baccarat…)

XDN has done the heavy-lifting for you. 
—-we’re not talking about lightbulbs here…we’re not even talking flood-lamps..

WE’RE TALKING ABOUT REACHING FOR THE STARS, AND LETTING THE SUNSHINE IN 
          ( alas, another song about Baccarat…) 

 

Best I can say is don’t for one minute think about doing this on your own…you’ll be missing out on literally many $100’s, even $1,000’s of $$ while thinking you can do better.

Get the APP, join the Forum , and when you’re on board, call me anytime you have a question.

Best to All. And remember, anyone knows me, they will tell you I much prefer ‘ being good’, than just ‘being lucky’)

LUCK COMES  & GOES…

BUT, THE MORE YOU LEARN , THE “GOODER” YOU’LL BECOME…AND THAT CAN LAST A LIFETIME.

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Firstly how many casinos will allow you to use this app in a casino? At my casino if you use a phone you have to go back a metre and they won't let you play while you are on the phone. 

Secondly if somehow you start winning, you will be banned immediately from the casino. The casino will not allow you to win whilst using an app.

Thirdly, if you learn how to properly play you can blend in and look like an ordinary mug punter.

I don't believe anyone should should go into the casino until your home practise is over 70% wins playing a minimum of 200-500 shoes. In the casino this will drop to about 60% due to distractions in the casino. But you will still be a winner. Protect your bankroll, it is too precious to lose. You worked too hard to get your bankroll in the first place.

Just a few thoughts.

 

 

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9 hours ago, winbac said:

Follow up:

Firstly how many casinos will allow you to use this app in a casino? At my casino if you use a phone you have to go back a meter and they won't let you play while you are on the phone.   Online..... Stadium.....

Secondly if somehow you start winning, you will be banned immediately from the casino. The casino will not allow you to win whilst using an app.

Lets state this in the reverse to check the logic... "You have to keep losing for the casino to allow you to play."  Yes, you are correct, if you lose a lot of money session after session the casinos very happy to have you as a customer. Personally, I don't want to keep loosing just to keep playing at a casino, they can kick me out for winning too much any time they like. Second, online they don't know, you are using an app.

 

Thirdly, if you learn how to properly play you can blend in and look like an ordinary mug punter.

The app is not only a playing tool, it's a teaching tool.... Want to learn 5D, V87, ORE, you can check your own paper score keeping against what the app produces to train your "paper/normal" play.

The hit rate comments.... true and good. The app can help you improve your hit rates and recognize shoes with a playable bias. No matter the method, app/5D etc... good advice, practice and make sure your hit rate is above water before playing.

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Are there any records available on how much people have made using the app?

At this stage I haven't spoken to anyone regarding how many people have purchased the app. Has any one been able to re coup the purchase price of the app from their winnings? 

It would be interesting to see how many people have purchased the app and how many winning units are they are making per shoe playing a min 50+ shoes.

These are all questions that would be important to know for people wanting to purchase the app.

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Hi XDN

Thanks for your reply. I am sure that on line you can use the app, but at my casino you cannot use the app on Stadium

I think your logic is flawed. Only a fool will go to a casino not knowing if he can win or not. That is why I said PRACTICE at home and know you can win BEFORE you enter a casino. If you get banned from your local casino where are you going to play then??

If the app is not a playing tool (as you say) why would you take it into a casino? Maybe you forgot but No system works on its own. Understand the game of baccarat and because a shoe can change 3 or 4 times and you follow the change and you can stay abreast of what's happening and WIN. No system factors in change. 5D, V87, ORE etc are all systems!!

 

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9 minutes ago, winbac said:

Are there any records available on how much people have made using the app?

At this stage I haven't spoken to anyone regarding how many people have purchased the app. Has any one been able to re coup the purchase price of the app from their winnings? 

It would be interesting to see how many people have purchased the app and how many winning units are they are making per shoe playing a min 50+ shoes.

These are all questions that would be important to know for people wanting to purchase the app.

Please verify the number of people you have you spoken too who have the app? Please pm me their username or email address so they can be verified as owners of the app. Then we can talk about it.

No data is collected from the app. 

YouTube channel   The baccarat Nation  answers another of your questions,  look it up, good stuff.

Records?? How would that data even be collected? What would you say if someone asked you for solid proof of your last shoes? Additionally, what kind of proof would satisfy you? Bank statements? Tax forms? You certainly wouldn't share it, I don't expect many others would either. The app identifies short term anomalies in shoes, it doesn't track bets or bet results and it collects zero "behind the scenes data."

There are many ways to play baccarat, not just one. Keep an open mind folks, keep learning. 

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If you want to be pedantic an app cannot learn, so it can't be a learning tool.

Maybe my English is not too good , but I did say I haven't spoken to anyone about how many people have purchased the app.

Surely if you are promoting a product you have some idea how effective it is. You know that people are winning or losing using the product.

If someone asked me to supply solid proof of my plays at the casino I have a record of all my plays. You are getting frightfully defensive. 

If I sell a product especially in a smaller group I make sure that in a proper casino environment I have enough information to tell you how successful it is.

I am not talking about tax records etc. That's  being a bit paranoid. All I asked how successful is the app. On an average do you win 1 u or 10u or do you lose.

"trust me" doesn't cut it for me I have been around for too long.

 

 

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Of course I'm going to defend against misinformation. 

@winbac There are as many ways to play as there are people. You don't like using the app, fine. You win with your method of play, great, super. Personally, I love it, playing with the app is a new skill, a new way to play, no one asked you to change your method. If you are not / will not change....why do you find it necessary to comment? You seem to think we are saying "abandon all other baccarat skills and just use the app." That is just not true, it's a tool just like everything else here.

 

No one said "The app learns"  the app can be a teaching tool so HUMANS can learn how to play the different systems.

Repeat.... the app collects no data...how would we know who has won what? 

 

If I say I am winning with it, you won't believe me because

1 hour ago, winbac said:

"trust me" doesn't cut it for me I have been around for too long.

so how can I say I win with the app.....then you won't trust what I say anyway? Sheez...

 

Screenshot below from the last shoe I played:

If you saw that  O2 was beating  R2 by 16 on the Big Eye Road in this shoe....

or if you see that T2 was also +12 over 02 on the small road......

or if you see that derived recommendations were +11 on the Big Eye Road


Is that valuable information??  Could anyone, skilled or unskilled, make a unit or 2 out of the 16 wins vs losses, go home a winner and have fun? Yep. This is not isolated, this shoe was not cherry picked. The app helps find more playable biases in more types of shoes than has previously been possible.....between hands of baccarat. 

I love playing this way, it's just a new way to play...may not be everyone's cup of tea.

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Additional thought on "Does the app win" I'm sure this question will come up again....

 

The App Doesn't Bet, it doesn't have a "Win Rate"..... it makes recommendations based on what anomalies are working at the current time.

Example: Above, the app identified BigEye 02 bias was +16 over BigEye T2 bias. It shows what would be the correct "next bet" if the user wishes to play that bias .... but it doesn't place the bet.

- What if the user clicked Player when they intended to click Banker?  Did the "App" lose that bet? How would the app know the users intention?

- What if the user went to the bathroom in the middle of that shoe and only bet 1/2 of those recommendations? Did the "App" have a lower win rate?

- What if the user likes to bet only Player to reduce commission load? Did the "app" only win 50% of those recommendations?

The app doesn't bet, it doesn't control the bets a user makes so accurate data is impossible to collect.

 

The app is a one of our many tools that helps identify good bets in a shoe.

I believe most people reading this could see a a benefit to being told O2 is beating R2 by  16 in this shoe. I know I do.

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16 hours ago, winbac said:

HI XDN,

.... It's called DUE DILLIGENCE.

Hi @winbacThe app is not a mutual fund, stock in a company or an investment product .... it is a baccarat tool. Lets look at it this way.

 

You want drive a nail into wood. You go to the internet and research what tool to use. You've found out you need to buy a hammer to drive a nail. You go to the hardware store and ask the clerk "will this hammer drive a nail into wood?" Clerks says yes......you ask, "is this the best hammer I can get for the money?" The clerk says yes.... you ask "do skilled carpenters use this type of hammer to drive nails?" the clerk says yes. Congratulations you have done your  DUE DILLIGENCE   it's a great hammer ... you buy it.

You go home, try to drive the nail but this is the first time you've used a hammer so you don't succeed in driving the nail the first time. Was it the hammers fault? Was it the clerks fault? Was it the hardware stores fault? Obviously not.....

Or do you understand that all you needed was a little practice with the hammer? Do you also understand that even after you've practiced and driven your first 10 nails that this was the first time you've used a hammer. You are not going to be as skilled at driving nails with the tool as a 20 year carpenter .... until you put in the 20 years in to learn the skill? 

The exact same hammer may drive 1000 nails an hour in the hands of a 20 year carpenter and it it may drive only 100 nails an hour in the hands of an apprentice. The apprentice did his DUE DILLIGENCE on the hammer, it's a great hammer, the best, but it's only driving 100 nails per hour....why???  Is the hammer to blame for driving less nails when the apprentice uses it? Obviously not.....

 

This is a simplistic example but it is exact.... the app is a TOOL, possibly the best one we've ever had in baccarat but it takes some skill, it can be used more effectively with more practice, time and understanding. Just like any other tool we humans use.

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Hey, winbac

Thinking you might PM ( private message) Keith about your original questions…he has the most complete data/ insight into purchases, usage rates, efficacy, FAQ’s, etc regarding TUBA*

Unfortunately,

      no Consumer Reports,

             no ‘clearing house’ monitors all-things-baccarat,

                    not even an Angie’s List ( oh, I guess she prefers just-plain ANGI now…)
 

Seems from your comments, in your situation, if you were to deploy it for on-line play ( since you cant use at the tables, or Stadium) ,you’d want to “put it through its paces “ in order to determine how best to use it to see whether it augments your 70/60 % win rates you mentioned , in order to determine its usefulness to your style of play. 
 

( Appears that is the only thing that really matters!) 

 

Good luck and hope this helps…

 

THE ULTIMATE BACCARAT APP

 

 

 

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On 8/25/2022 at 3:58 PM, XDN said:

Hi @winbacThe app is not a mutual fund, stock in a company or an investment product .... it is a baccarat tool. Lets look at it this way.

 

You want drive a nail into wood. You go to the internet and research what tool to use. You've found out you need to buy a hammer to drive a nail. You go to the hardware store and ask the clerk "will this hammer drive a nail into wood?" Clerks says yes......you ask, "is this the best hammer I can get for the money?" The clerk says yes.... you ask "do skilled carpenters use this type of hammer to drive nails?" the clerk says yes. Congratulations you have done your  DUE DILLIGENCE   it's a great hammer ... you buy it.

You go home, try to drive the nail but this is the first time you've used a hammer so you don't succeed in driving the nail the first time. Was it the hammers fault? Was it the clerks fault? Was it the hardware stores fault? Obviously not.....

Or do you understand that all you needed was a little practice with the hammer? Do you also understand that even after you've practiced and driven your first 10 nails that this was the first time you've used a hammer. You are not going to be as skilled at driving nails with the tool as a 20 year carpenter .... until you put in the 20 years in to learn the skill? 

The exact same hammer may drive 1000 nails an hour in the hands of a 20 year carpenter and it it may drive only 100 nails an hour in the hands of an apprentice. The apprentice did his DUE DILLIGENCE on the hammer, it's a great hammer, the best, but it's only driving 100 nails per hour....why???  Is the hammer to blame for driving less nails when the apprentice uses it? Obviously not.....

 

This is a simplistic example but it is exact.... the app is a TOOL, possibly the best one we've ever had in baccarat but it takes some skill, it can be used more effectively with more practice, time and understanding. Just like any other tool we humans use.

 

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2 hours ago, kachatz1 said:

Hey, winbac

Thinking you might PM ( private message) Keith about your original questions…he has the most complete data/ insight into purchases, usage rates, efficacy, FAQ’s, etc regarding TUBA*

Unfortunately,

      no Consumer Reports,

             no ‘clearing house’ monitors all-things-baccarat,

                    not even an Angie’s List ( oh, I guess she prefers just-plain ANGI now…)
 

Seems from your comments, in your situation, if you were to deploy it for on-line play ( since you cant use at the tables, or Stadium) ,you’d want to “put it through its paces “ in order to determine how best to use it to see whether it augments your 70/60 % win rates you mentioned , in order to determine its usefulness to your style of play. 
 

( Appears that is the only thing that really matters!) 

 

Good luck and hope this helps…

 

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On 8/23/2022 at 2:26 AM, winbac said:

if somehow you start winning, you will be banned immediately from the casino.

I've never seen this happen.  In blackjack, yes, but not in baccarat.  Has anyone else?   How many other BTC members would have already been shown the door if this were true?  I know I would have!  

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Hard to say what ALL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE where @winbac plays, which would result in somebody getting banned solely for “ winning” .

Casinos generally operate on the principal that the more often an individual plays, and the longer they play, the more “ expected value” the casino will derive from that player. Of course some people will win now and then, but generally speaking …. The longer they play, and the greater their average bet size, the more the casino profits.

Perhaps winbac can explain the circumstances where he plays…likely a bit more to it, and certainly getting banned must be attributable to more than just a player winning more than they lose?

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