Hi Folks, thank you for your swift and courteous reply. In fact I did buy NBJ but I am ashamed to say I lost my copy. When I purchased them I believe you were in Saratoga Springs, but I think I bought them from Mr. Clifton Davis. I seem to remember that they were about $3,000 if memory serves. Believe me when I say that counting as taught can break your heart. I have played BJ quite a bit, but please bear in mind, I have spent the last dozen years as a pretty active poker player, cash games mostly and over the last few years tournament play. I have to confess that Baccarat intrigues me more than BJ, because I never believed that this was a beatable game, although I did believe it had the potential to be. Also, I never found BJ that enjoyable, counting is very stressful! Thanks again for your gentlemanly conduct. Regards, Neil Myers