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  2. Other bet selection methods that work

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    So heres the tracking of all patterns of the entire shoe:

    3-4, 4-4, 5-4, 1-3, 5-4, 3-4, 4-4, 6-4, 7-4, 3-4, 4-5, 2-4, 1-4, 2-6, 5-5, 3-6, 4-7, 1-4, 5-4, 1-3, 2-9, 6-5, 5-6, 6-4

    you can see from the last numbers of the tracking digits (1-(4)) that it averages 4 pretty consistently right form the start.

    Towards the end it raises slightly.

    On average the break point sits between 4 - 6 from shoe to shoe I found from my experience

    Looking at this one starting at 4 if we flat bet a break of 4 the whole way through, moving on after a win or loss and not chasing the break past 1 bet we get

    WWWWWWWWWLWWLLLLWWLLLW

    14W

    8L

    +6 flat bet

    up as you win would have killed it

    Hope this helps people understand how this works and ask questions if you still don't

    This is a pretty consistent average on this shoe so its a good example but there are many more ways to play this to give you a higher average and get onto runs etc

    Towards the end when the average rose up to 5 - 6 I would possibly have raised the break point rather than keep it at 4 when it was incurring losses but for simplicity's sake I played it at 4 the whole way through.

    An average is exactly that an average and so with the very consistent average of 4 right at the start you would expect it to rise towards the end of the shoe to put the overall average between 4 - 6 which it did

    Hi Brad,

    You don't mind using the score card and show us exactly where you made your bets/what won/what lost, as mentioned by Kachatz (Kevin).

    As I can see, after you known the first 3 patterns breaking is after 4 plays (3-4, 4-4, 5-4), thereafter only got 21 patterns but you managed to bet 22 bets (w14 & L8).

    Tsen

  3. Other bet selection methods that work

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Hello Tsen

    Well they are the same but different - pattern 2 is PPBPPB and pattern 3 is BBPBBP so if you are looking at events yes they are the same but if you look in terms of P and B they are different.

    They can each have their own characteristics - you may have PPPPPPPPPPP and then BBBB on average - some shoes only streak in one direction

    Also the same with PPB vs BBP

    The more detail you track the more accurate you can get but it may well be acceptable to record 2 and 3 as the same and 6 and 7 as the same and your results may not be any worse. If that's the case with time then I will drop it back to 5 patterns.

    Hi Brad,

    My suggestion is, no need to differentiate it because PPPBBB vs BBBPPP and PBPB vs BPBP also got their own characteristics.

    Maybe you can try it as follow:

    Pattern

    1. PBPB or BPBP

    2. PPBB or BBPP

    3. PPBPPB or BBPBBP

    4. PPPBBB or BBBPPP

    5. PPPP or BBBB

    But whether the results are the same or not, need to try it first.

    Tsen

  4. Other bet selection methods that work

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    I number all patterns - now I change order from most choppy to most streaky:

    1. PBPB

    2. PPBPPB

    3. BBPBBP

    4. PPBB

    5. PPPBBB

    6. PPPP

    7. BBBB

    so if you get the pattern PBPBB then its 1-4 as its pattern 1 breaking after 4 plays

    if you get BBBBBP then its pattern 7 breaking after 5 plays (7-5)

    you can scan bake and see the pattern sequence and the average break points

    Hi Brad,

    Why you want differentiate the Pattern 2 & Pattern 3 both also 2121 and also Pattern 6 & Pattern 7 both also 4s?

    Tsen

  5. Other bet selection methods that work

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted · Edited by tsenks

    Having a lot of success with this and have refined it a bit wondering if anyone else could test it and might find it works for them:

    7 patterns

    1. PPPPPPPPP

    2. BBBBBBBBB

    3. PBPBPB

    4. PP B PP B

    5. BB P BB P

    6. PPP BBB PPP

    7. PP BB PP BB

    These are all the possible patterns for up to 4 plays if I'm not mistaken

    They have to all form and break in reality but when?

    I found in reality 4 - 6 plays on average but they vary per shoe.

    Record like this:

    1-7 - pattern 1 breaks at 7 plays - eg - PPPPPPPB

    7-4 - pattern 7 breaks after 4 plays - eg PPBBPPBBPB

    average break point is 7 + 4 / 2 = 5.5

    Comments?

    Hi Brad,

    These 7 patterns you invented by yourself or your get it and share with us from Smtinvest Super Baccarat System or from Salangane-books?

    Tsen

  6. how to beat this shoes

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    E. Clifton Davis said:
    Guys, I'm going to put up a thread on the Public forum called "Baccarat - The Final Word" manual,

    Where I can be sure I'm talking to everyone.

    Everything I say will be valid for you members too

    except the price.

    For you guys the price is $500. You could call that an early bird special. I'll lock in all private members who siged up already or who sign up in the near future.

    But once I'm ready to ship, I'll raise the member price to $600.

    But for the public it will be higher, I don't know, what do you guys think?

    $750? $1000?

    If we were back in the '90s I'd say $3000 and actually get it by the hundreds.

    But ordinary people had money back then.

    Today - not so much.

    Hi Ellis

    Another charge from you?

    Tsen

  9. Another Newbie.

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    I don't understand how 3456 is less risky than 1234. I see how 1234 add up to 10. And 3456 add up to 18 units. So why is 3456 less risky?

    Hi! Nazar,

    See the example, assuming that I already won 1st 10 bets as follows:

    If using 1234,

    1st 10 bets win = 10 units,

    11th loss = -1 unit

    12th loss = -2 units

    13th loss = -3 units

    14th loss = -4 units, total loss = -10 units

    Total win (+10 units) less total loss (-10 units) = 0 units

    If using 3456,

    1st 10 bets win = 30 units,

    11th loss = -3 unit

    12th loss = -4 units

    13th loss = -5 units

    14th loss = -6 units, total loss = -18 units

    Total win (+30 units) less total loss (-18 units) = 12 units

    See the difference?? This is based on the assumption that you already won in the 1st 10 bets.

    Then you will be ask, what happen if I loss in the 1st 4 bets....... whoops! this is different stories....... This need Mr Ellis to answer.

    Thanks

    Tsen

  10. Another Newbie.

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    OK, it was an on line shoe so we know it is regular cards.

    Hi Ellis,

    How do we know that the on-line shoe is normally a Regular Cards?

    I used to play on-line also (Thailand on-line casino and Philippines on-line casino), before they start the shoe, they open the cards that wrapped with plastic and use the shuffling machine and shuffle the cards in front of the us.

    So this should consider Regular Cards or Fixed Cards (Pre-shuffled)?

    Thanks

    Tsen

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