Brad01......I'm a Nor Member. I have payed for Membership (Nor), Vegas Workshop and Extra Training. All I was asking is for some practice shoes to see where I stand germane to the Vegas Shoes. Ellis told us at the Workshop that Nor is more difficult in Vegas. That's it...nothing for free.....just some shoes...no secrets...nothing for free. Get It ??!!??? I was told this forum is the best and helpful....not to sure