# What about just an OR system?

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I haven't purchased NOR and thus, haven't attended any seminars etc...

But having a basic idea of what NOR is, I was wondering if the game can be simplified a bit more...

So how about just a OR system? Thus, Opposite or Repeats and cutting out OTB4L.

You would still use a O/R count to decide if you want to play Opposites - system 40 or Repeats.

Let's say the shoe opens up as ppbbppbbppbpbppbbbpp I would obviously go with repeats and use a 1,2,3 negative progression you would kill this shoe if this continues. The only fear is pbpbpbpbpb and it would be easy to jump to a opposite strategy...at least I think.

Actually the majority of the time you would be using a Repeat strategy unless the O/R count quite positive...lets say +3 or higher after 20 hands. Otherwise just go with Repeats.

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I haven't purchased NOR and thus, haven't attended any seminars etc...

Therefore everyone will take your comments with a huge grain of salt.

But having a basic idea of what NOR is, I was wondering if the game can be simplified a bit more...

So how about just a OR system? Thus, Opposite or Repeats and cutting out OTB4L.

You would still use a O/R count to decide if you want to play Opposites - system 40 or Repeats.

Let's say the shoe opens up as ppbbppbbppbpbppbbbpp I would obviously go with repeats and use a 1,2,3 negative progression you would kill this shoe if this continues. The only fear is pbpbpbpbpb and it would be easy to jump to a opposite strategy...at least I think.

Actually the majority of the time you would be using a Repeat strategy unless the O/R count quite positive...lets say +3 or higher after 20 hands. Otherwise just go with Repeats.

Try it! You could even flat bet! You will find that you win the half of the shoes that are either choppy or streaky - and lose the half that are neutral - the same half that OTB4L, which you eliminated, would have won. You will be playing like players played 30 years ago. They soon found out that's not a good way to play.

Casinos try for and get OTB4L shoes because that is when they do their best. Therefore OTB4L is the LAST thing you would want to eliminate. It is your default system. If you were a member you would know these things.

You have talent but it needs to be directed.

Right now you are just blowing in the wind.

The average Baccarat player loses more per day than BTC costs. The casino's own profit reports prove that beyond any doubt.

Those other guys think they know how to play too. The fact is they haven't a clue. Casino profit numbers clearly demonstrate that players lose at a far greater rate than the odds of the game dictate - 50/50 + commission.

Staying out on the fringes you will forever be in that huge group - the group that thinks they know how to play.

There's no future in that!

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Hamster, here's your shoe start played OTB4L, the same system you wanted to eliminate. Perhaps you can see why no one here is going to try your way and why you should be playing our way:

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Therefore everyone will take your comments with a huge grain of salt.

Try it! You could even flat bet! You will find that you win the half of the shoes that are either choppy or streaky - and lose the half that are neutral - the same half that OTB4L, which you eliminated, would have won. You will be playing like players played 30 years ago. They soon found out that's not a good way to play.

Casinos try for and get OTB4L shoes because that is when they do their best. Therefore OTB4L is the LAST thing you would want to eliminate. It is your default system. If you were a member you would know these things.

You have talent but it needs to be directed.

Right now you are just blowing in the wind.

The average Baccarat player loses more per day than BTC costs. The casino's own profit reports prove that beyond any doubt.

Those other guys think they know how to play too. The fact is they haven't a clue. Casino profit numbers clearly demonstrate that players lose at a far greater rate than the odds of the game dictate - 50/50 + commission.

Staying out on the fringes you will forever be in that huge group - the group that thinks they know how to play.

There's no future in that!

Thanks for replying Ellis. I know this is just the public forum but I think it is great that you respond to posts in here as well.

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