Hi I've been getting back into BAC and can't wait to the 4d comes out but I'm still learning Nor from scratch. I went to one of my local casinos today and recorded one of these 2 shoes. I'm trying to identify the bias in each one to play Nor with. The first one looks good for s40 but looks like there would be crazy mode switching in the middle and the second one looks totally chaotic and don't know which system would be best. I'm thinking maybe the casinos in my city might actually have random cards but i'm not 100% on that but if they are would it be better to do net betting with OvR or BvP? Here's the two shoes..first one is a complete shoe not counting ties. Second one is only half a shoe. (*I didn't know how to post it by 20 plays per column as I without having broken some of the runs, how would I do this) B1213121121114111113142432112121132121 Shoe 2 B123555214311111211 If someone could give me a play by play with what system(also with a 2 or 3hi because I'm conservative), would greatly be appreciated as it would shorten my learning curve. Thanks:smile: