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  1. Switching the bet after a tie

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    Hello experts. 

    Have you seen the movie 21. For folks who don't know or not seen it's a classic movie of the blackjack card counting invented by MIT students and later took Vegas for millions. Watch it if you have not done so.

     

    There is a mathematic probability game situation in the movie where the students are presented with 3 boxes. The student is allowed to pick 1 box contains which contains gold and you are given only 2 chances to get lucky.

     

    One student (the hero) selects the Box no 1.

    The teacher reveals that box no 2 is empty.

    He immediately switches his selection to box no 3 as his choice of selection. Because it has a higher possibility. Don't understand why.

     

    I have a nagging question. All the triggers point to Banker  bet in blackjack. 

    And then we hit a tie. Should we switch to Player by the above anomaly?

    I know we don't care about Ties in BTC.But what would you personally do if you have to with gut instincts. 

  3. Modes modes and modes.

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    I saw this on the "public bacarrat forum" posted by Brad. Thanks mate.

     

    It is never necessary to use either mode - everything is up to you

    Modes 2 and 3 as per the manual were designed to allow you to sustain either 2 losses (mode 2) or 3 losses (mode 3) and still continue playing the method you were playing

    When you follow a bias you are going to at some point sustain a loss

    The question is do you think that the loss was just a deviation and therefore the bias will continue?

    How many losses in a row do you keep betting that the bias you are trying to follow will return?

    Or do you reverse the theory and go OTR (follow the change)

    Its all determined by what you see as consistent events happening.

    Of course murphy's law says you will sit back and choose a mode and as soon as you bet - the event that you have chosen to avoid will come up!

    What sort of progression are you using if any?

    As for a streaky shoe are you referring to TBL or F / SS ?

    Its all things you have to consider

     

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  4. Modes modes and modes.

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    1 hour ago, trillion said:

    BacPlayer most players on the forum are not using any Modes, they are looking for short term NOR biases. (Strong Side, Repeats, Opposites, RD1, Tb4l, and Otb4l)

    We are mostly using a flat betting without any progressions or possibly using a 1-2 Loop, never betting more than 2 units, and stopping on your next bet after 2 losses IAR.

    Hope this helps you understand what is all the discussion currently on BTC Forum. 

    Hi Trillion.. thanks.. always greatful for experienced folks sharing their perspectives.

    This was my confusion too... 

    In some posts i see some mention of s40M1 and understanding of modes in the NOR as proceeding to the next level.

    so what if you do when you follow a method and lose 1 hand.... immediately go OTR?

    or do you continue until losing the second hand.

     

  9. How the cards fall

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    15 hours ago, cashout said:

    Hi,

     OZ,CT70, PapaJoe, Brad, Wolfat, Way2fast,

     

    I am in complete amazement. I was not expecting this perfect storm. I knew one day in my dreams this would happen all  of

    you coming together. Oz I want to first off thank you for all the incredible advice that is priceless you have given. I know you have mentioned

    many times you are not a teacher and I appreciate and everyone here really does. Papa Joe thank you for your great advice. CT70 I hope you are

    taking the casino " You know which ones " to the cleaners with all your winnings. Way2fast great pic of those beautiful looking chips from Vegas you posted awhile back.

    Brad it never seems to amaze me with your contributions. You are always helpful. Wolfat I hope all is well. 

     

    I know we never stop learning but one thing for sure I can tell you its ALWAYS a pleasure learning from more experienced players because to win

    a million bucks from a couple hundred dollars is a huge accomplishment because most players you see at the casinos are constantly pulling

    money out of there wallets. Just like OZ,Papajoe,Way2fast had mentors when they first started playing.. You all are our mentors and we appreciate

    every piece of advice you give us. 

     

    Thank you !!!

     

    I agree. 

  10. Are casinos really creating the biases...

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    9 hours ago, mjmtong said:

    Hi BacPlayer.

    Regarding playing  MDB+ (using the w2fast rules)

    The best way to play it is to "Enhance the Probability" of a successful bet placement.

    Oz. (his "Mentor" and the great Norm.A) have ALL said and EMPHASIZED that you should NEVER FORGET to CONSIDER what the actual SS (Strong Side) IS as the shoe is played through.

    eg. P vs B is the easiest because it is shown on the tote board. Say you look at it and it shows P 10 and B 18. Banker clearly IS SS (Strong Side) here in this example...easy right!

    Now say that the very next hand happens to be a MDB+ bet that calls for a Banker bet. Here you have a perfect example of "Combining" what SS ACTUALLY is with a called for MDB+ bet....see that!

    Now what if the MDB+ bet called for a Player bet and the SS was Banker. Well you don't have to bet do you?...WAIT IT OUT...or...reduce the bet size by half on that bet...so that you reduce your risk.

    This is what it is ALL about, "Follow the Shoe"...you CANNOT play this game like a ROBOT. You must "Combine SHOE HISTORY with your Bets placements". (thank you Oz.)

    Now take this up to another level. What are OPPOSITES doing vs. REPEATS?...which one is winning the most....and COMBINE the SS (Strong Side) DOMINANT one of those with MDB+....do you SEE NOW how that "Enhances" the PROBABILITY of a Win.

    Work on incorporating the SS (Strong Side) into WHAT EVER BET SELECTION method you use and you WILL be amazed at how this will improve your game. 

      

     

    This is awesome. thanks mjmtong. 

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  12. Are casinos really creating the biases...

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    Brad/Pando/XDotNet/CT70

    Thanks for your inputs. This is great forum and everybody is very helpful. 

    Having read through the NOR and now the MDB + and SAP methodologies.   

    Isnt MDB and SAP opposite of the same event. NOR+SAP is optimistic perspective (expect the same event are going to repeat as the previous shoe history). MDB+ is a pessimistic view  (the same event can't repeat 5 times continuously) 

    Is it correct that we can't use both these systems in the same shoe and get caught on the wrong side doing so.

    Let's say you are using s40 because of high 1's and 2's and less 3 or higher  and suddenly the shoe changes. When does it warrant an abandon of NOR + SAP and move to MDB+ and vice versa.

    Am I over complicating these stuffs? I want to KISS. ( keep it simple and sweet)

    From previous posts of oz I think he favors the NOR + SAP

    Way2Fast uses MDB+ 

    Does these systems have a meeting point. When does 1 end and the other begin.

    Thanks

     

     

  18. Are casinos really creating the biases...

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    Oz, way2fast, Brad

    u guys are way too awesome. your posts are very very informative. The concept of money management I believe is the key and you all seem to affirm that. If u stay alive by losing less in bad sections u can kill the good sections of the shoe. 

    As a beginner let me ask you this question. 

    Do we need to know all systems and use all systems simultaneously in the same shoe. I know each shoe has various sections that can utilize different strategies. 

    what would u categorize as systems that are must knows/nice to know  

    I want to prepare a cheat sheet to list systems/when to use/ when not to use/ entry trigger / exit trigger  

    do you think it's a good idea?

    thanks

     

     

  21. Are casinos really creating the biases...

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    Going through lots of posts in the site..

    There is a strong feeling that casinos are creating the biases but the type of shuffle used manual vs continous shuffle machines etc.

    I am not very convinced that they can manipulate such things accurately for 8 card shoe.

    What if an additional card is burned. the entire biases shifts from player to banker or vice versa.

    How will they know if its a 2 card hand or a 3 card hard.

    My question is how can they manipulate the first n hands to be steaky and the next few hands to be ZZ/TT or choppy.

    Isn't it just a random event.

     

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  22. Terribly confused

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

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    Awesome advices guys.. Thanks...You guys are really very knowledgable..

    Brad.. are there advices of what are the triggers to shift from one system to another...

    for Ex:  say

    start with S40.

    Switch to OTB4L when you see  __________________

    or switch to TB4L when you see __________________

    Go to SS when you see ________________________

    etc.. 

    Is this information available elsewhere in the forum?

     

    Also is there a categorization of System likes and dislikes

    For Ex:

            S40       Likes - Choppy shoes  ZZ, 

                          Dislikes - TT

  23. Terribly confused

    in BeatTheCasino.com Q and A Baccarat and Blackjack

    Posted

    Hi experts,

    i joined recently and downloaded the materials in the site. 

    I feel there are way too many systems/approaches /progressions and I am very confused which system to use/where to start  

    In one of the videos it says S40 and OTB4L are the only 2 systems that are required. In another thread I see S40M1 and 4D/5D. RD1 etc etc. 

    Can someone point me to the materials of RD1 and SAP? Also to other materials that are essential  

    Also please point me to the order in which these materials need to be consumed. 

     

    thank you in advance. 

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