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Oz.
Please allow me to lay down some "history" of my own study's and observations of "things" and the game of "Baccarat".
Their is absolutely no doubt in my mind that "History Does Repeat"; and to expand on that a little more (and I respectfully say nothing "new" here - because it has already been "stated & quoted" again and again many, many times), is to say that: "Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past, are destined to repeat them".
As far as the game of Baccarat is concerned this applies "Oz.course" (sorry mate couldn't help the "pun") to the way that he (Oz.) approaches his game, as well as the way we all should.
Now before any of you think that I am any where near "the level" of this "quoted" (not by me..) "Madman", allow me to "pause" here and make it very clear that I am not.
What I am is a dedicated "Student" of the game who looks to learn from the "many" ways that this game can be played.
Note I said "many", because there is NO single "mechanical system" that will beat this game.
What then does make a "difference" is that you MUST adjust your "Way" of play according to the particular shoe that you are playing "at any particular" point in time, and this is NOT F'...ng easy.
Again, please do not think that I am any kind of a Baccarat "guru" here (is there even such a thing?), because "hell no" I am not.
I joined this forum about a year and a half ago as an "MDB" subscriber, because it seemed to me at that time that "MDB" was a "pretty decent" way to approach the game.
Now, having been "introduced" to B.T.C. and then the "benefits" of its vast forum content via that, my learning "experience" only began at that point.
"To become great" - it has been quoted, you must learn from the "greats".
BUT you can only become really "good"; as it has also been stated, after dedicating yourself to learning/studying/applying/practicing "something" for around 10,000 hours of actually doing it.
You see, so many "fall by the wayside" of becoming successful in ANY endeavor they start out at because they have not accumulated those necessary "hours" of "learn.ed experience".
Oz., some-how I think I understand a little something about the "study" that you have put into the "study" of your 8000+ shoes. Have I put in my 10,000 hours of Baccarat study yet? No. (but I am getting there - has Oz.?..yes I think so - but only he really knows that)
I believe, as you already know, that no "formally learned" qualification: eg. doctor, lawyer, western.australian.oil.rig.worker..etc. can come close to the income that a dedicated "student" of this game can make.
Food for thought people, and cheers to you Oz. for being an "over-qualified" exponent (Madman) of this game who is openly willing to try to pass on his own "experiences" so as to help others become better at THEIR game.-
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Hello everyone.
Great post Oz. Extremely well done and good on ya’ mate.
On behalf of the entire B.T.C. membership, I think I can confidently pass on a BIG THANK-YOU to you for all your hard work and for all the contributions you have made in here over many years.
As you say, I guess it helps to “look back” and reminisce at times, but I think that is an understatement in your “particularly unique” case.?
Oz a "Madman".....na.!
"Crazy Persistent" and "Slightly more than a Little Obsessed" would be more like it.
Oz. you mentioned a great man in your opening post, so here is one of his great quotes:
“Genius is 1% talent and 99% percent hard work.” ~ Albert Einstein
But there are others who also have had this to say:
"I am a nut, but not just a nut.” ~ Bill Murray &
“The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.” ~ Bruce Feirstein & “Insane people help humanity. They make others “appear” normal. ~ Anonymous”
& finally consider the following:
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How the Casinos WILL Cheat us with their “Electronic Shufflers”
Hello every one.
Take a look at this YouTube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APuWdib1hEU
Here is a video YouTube video “Published” on March 25 2015.
I think it is from a Casino employee / consultant that “warns” Casinos about how their own equipment “can be compromised”.The video shows how, “if” you can get this “Electronically Controlled” shoe into a Casino, a “Player” (and/or his team) can gain a HUGE advantage over the house by simply knowing (BEFORE IT IS DEALT) what the 1st Card drawn out of the shoe (to the “Baccarat Player Side”) would be. (see table below)
Now consider this.
What if us “Honest Players” turn up to a Casino to play Baccarat and they decide to use this “Technology” against us.
Using this type of “Roller” technology, all a Casino has to do is look (via their OWN legally employed “Surveillance Room” personnel) at how many “DOLLARS” are ACTUALLY being bet on Player vs. Banker and “CONTROL” what card comes out 1st to the PLAYER side or the BANKER side. (as the case may be)
All they have to do IS “Roll UP” and Hold the 1st Card or the 2nd or the 3rd or HOWEVER MANY cards it takes…AND then “Release” an “appropriate” 1st card out of the shoe to the Player Side (or the Banker side) – WHICHEVER side would favor a “House” win based on the % table shown above.
How many shoes do we see these days that DO NOT come out of “some kind” of “Electronic” shoe. Gone are the days where (in the majority of cases these days) 8 or 6 “individual Decks of 52 Cards” are brought to the table and “shuffled” in front of us, then put into a “SIMPLE TRANSPARENT PLASTIC SHOE” and then dealt to us. IT just don`t happen anymore (i.e. in the “majority” of Baccarat games dealt these days) right?
“Pre-Shuffled” cards are delivered in “sealed” plastic containers and/or Cards are “Reshuffled” by “MACHINES” that we have NO IDEA about how or who “programs” them or not?
Well “why” might this be so?
The Casinos WILL do everything in their power to make sure that PROFITS are maintained and or “ENHANCED” via any means necessary.
Think about his for a moment. CASINO PROFITS.
Are the Casinos a Business? Yes. What is the “PRIMARY purpose” of a business? It is to make a PROFIT. Large Casinos these days are mostly “publicly listed” on Stock Exchanges worldwide. What do “Stock Holders” want – a “Return” on their investments. What is the PRIMARY responsibility (I hope) of these listed “Casino Company`s”, it is to provide an “investment return” to their shareholders.
What is the “fix” for us who seek an “Honest Game” against the “House”. Well that would be to tell the “World” about this and “hope” that they would listen.
What are the “chances” of successful “Boycott” against ALL “Casinos Games” that come “out of some electronically controlled device”? Well that would be the “ideal” – but as all of know (or should) “ideals” and “real life” are two very different things.
What the Casinos ALREADY know is that a “Boycott” answer to “their cheating” will never happen (or don`t they..haha!) because no matter what, how, where or how hard anyone tries to “convince” or “persuade” anyone otherwise, members of the “General Public” will ALWAYS look for places to “Gamble” and the Casinos KNOW THIS.
I would say to those perhaps more “educated”, that anywhere you see “Electronically Controlled” dealing devices, STOP GAMBLING – DON’T PLAY.. & INVEST your hard earned money instead in the “Stock” of the Casinos offering such games instead.Good “luck” everyone.
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Hi BacPlayer.
Regarding playing MDB+ (using the w2fast rules)
The best way to play it is to "Enhance the Probability" of a successful bet placement.
Oz. (his "Mentor" and the great Norm.A) have ALL said and EMPHASIZED that you should NEVER FORGET to CONSIDER what the actual SS (Strong Side) IS as the shoe is played through.
eg. P vs B is the easiest because it is shown on the tote board. Say you look at it and it shows P 10 and B 18. Banker clearly IS SS (Strong Side) here in this example...easy right!
Now say that the very next hand happens to be a MDB+ bet that calls for a Banker bet. Here you have a perfect example of "Combining" what SS ACTUALLY is with a called for MDB+ bet....see that!
Now what if the MDB+ bet called for a Player bet and the SS was Banker. Well you don't have to bet do you?...WAIT IT OUT...or...reduce the bet size by half on that bet...so that you reduce your risk.
This is what it is ALL about, "Follow the Shoe"...you CANNOT play this game like a ROBOT. You must "Combine SHOE HISTORY with your Bets placements". (thank you Oz.)
Now take this up to another level. What are OPPOSITES doing vs. REPEATS?...which one is winning the most....and COMBINE the SS (Strong Side) DOMINANT one of those with MDB+....do you SEE NOW how that "Enhances" the PROBABILITY of a Win.
Work on incorporating the SS (Strong Side) into WHAT EVER BET SELECTION method you use and you WILL be amazed at how this will improve your game.
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Hi Pando. All of the above intended in good humor. Just joking of "Oz..course"....hahahaha!
Yep, all that cold weather and rain that you endure makes it all the more important to pursue good productive "indoor" endevours...like Casino Baccarat !
Hey way', Golf in N.Z. can be very "Wet". Feb. is..ok, as far as not being too cold is concerned, but be sure not to forget to "Pack" good wet weather gear. Also be sure to bring good water proof "Golf Shoes", but if you happen to forget them, don't worry..the N,.Z. Golf Pro Shops always have a great and plentiful supply of "Wellies" (rain boots) !
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Oz...but..on the "flip side"...here you go ! Poor Kiwi's...always seem to getting "screwed" by the Aussies' !
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Hello Pando. N.Z. is a very beautiful country. You have great food, very good wines and top food. The beer is not too bad either.
Allow me to support you "a wee bit" from the "cultural attacks" initiated from Oz. (might help dowse down that "fire" of his...ha ha!)
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Oz...."we cannot afford to be politically correct any more"...(recent..t.r.u.m.p..q.u.ote.!)..Good on ya Mate!
One of the greatest things to achieve in Life is to become successful in what ever we do.
That means it doesn't matter whether you "build the best sand castles", "paint better than da vinci", or can "fight better than Muhammad Ali ", some "Cunt" will unfortunately always try to "cut you down".
The fortunate flip side to this, is that in the majority of times, it is the "f....ng..bastard" who is "having a go at you", that turns out to be the REAL "loser"!
I am absolutely "flabbergasted" and "dumb founded" about the news you have just "passed on" to us.
You are right on "the button" here Oz.
"Sarcastic old bastards" are ok.
We can all have a bit of "fun" with guys like this. "Poke" a liitle humor here, rub a little wax "on and/or off" over there. Who has'nt "joked around" with the older members of our community's (old farts..oops!) like this from time to time?
But when they become "Malicious and Vindictive old bastards"..well then Oz., they don't deserve your friendship any more.
I think I should end my "comment" about your unfortunate experience this way.
The guy most likely finds himself in the following situations:
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On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 5:45 AM, ozscouser1 said:
OK...I understand your frustration...been there... done that. At first glance this is a really shit shoe, but things aren't always as they seem...so sit back...grab yourself some popcorn and I'll try and take you through my thought processes. I don't keep a scorecard as such with SAP and all the other stuff, but I do keep a record for future reference.
Brad's Shoe
No bet until H17 The previous events (B4211322which becomes 3) if they had occurred mid shoe would have had me betting OT earlier but at the start of the shoe I ignore the length of the first event other than to note that it was a 4+. Flatbetting only
I make mental note of hands 5 to 11 for poss future RD evaluation.
H17 Bet 1P WIN +1...The B323 is a strong OT starting bet given that 2's and 3's are OTB4L and recent Repeat History and confirmed by the previous 3iar on B side
H18 Bet 1P WIN +2...OTB4L
H19 Bet 1B WIN+3...OTB4L and confirmed by no event higher than 2iar on P side history
H20 Bet 1B WIN+4 ...OTB4L
H21 WAIT...Normally an Automatic OTB4L switch to P but I note that all previous multiples on the B side have been 3 or more so I have one signal saying to bet OTP and an opposing signal saying bet B...When in conflict...NO BET
H22 Bet 1P WIN+5 continuing OT ...This is a gimme because it's a normal OT switch after 3iar and the two previous multiples were 3's as well which classes as a MC event
H23 Bet 1P LOSE+4
H24 WAIT I'm torn here between a not so strong first RD1 bet on P and a history of multiples on the B side...No bet
H25 Bet 1P WIN +5 All previous history is telling me to bet Repeats...RD1 or OT...A no brainer
H26 Bet 1B WIN+6 Despite Repeats being the order of the day, I note that there hasn't been any event multiple on the P side higher than 2 so I switch to B (in my book if I haven't witnessed a previous event, then I play under the assumption that it won't happen.)
H27 Bet 1B WIN+7 eight repeat events v four 1's...gotta continue Repeat betting
H28 Bet 1B WIN+8 Repeat bet especially with no multiple event on the B side of less than 3
H29 Bet 1P WIN+9 Switch to P MC event ...Last three 3's stayed 3 on B side
H30 Bet 1P LOSE+8 Both Repeats and OT are saying to bet P
H31 Bet 1B WIN+9 Continue betting Repeats.
H32 Bet 1B LOSE+8 Possible OT bet on P but overuled by strong Repeat history ...no 2's on B side and SS indications
H33 Bet1P LOSE+7 Repeat bet
H34 Bet1B WIN+8 SS says to make this bet...last 2 P's were singles...Repeats says to make this bet...and 5 out of last 6 events on the B side were multiples...a gimme bet
H35 Bet 1B WIN+9 SS
H36 Bet1B WIN+10 SS
H37 Bet 1B WIN+11SS B history is saying to switch but in the words of the great Norm Allen "SS shits all over any other Baccarat Bias"...OK ...He didn't exactly say that...but that's what he meant.
H38 Bet 1B WIN+12 SS again
H39 Bet 1B WIN+13 SS
H40 Bet 1B LOSE +12 SS
H41 Bet 1B WIN +13 SS Also confirmed by possible S40 bet with history prior to the B run indicating that a switch of Bias is in the air (keep that thought in the back of my mind) I remind myself though that the longer the run...the less likely immediate prior history (to the run) is not as reliable
H42 Bet 1B LOSE +12 SS...Now I'm getting wary...Opps appear to be entering the equation.
H43 Bet 2B WIN+14 Both SS and Opps are saying to make this bet and if I am ahead in the shoe I always make this a 2 unit bet. (only once per SS though)
H44 Bet 1B LOSE +13 I risk one more bet on a dwindling SS when my instinct is screaming out to switch to S40...I lose and stick another pin in my Norm Allen Voodoo doll.
H45 Bet 1B LOSE +12 SS and S40 say to make this bet
H46 WAIT...I would normally look at making the B bet here as a typical S40 play especially given that there have been no events so far higher that 2iar on the P side, but two things have me edgy...I have just lost my last two bets which is a signal to me to think twice about my next bet and that run of 7Bankers just a few hands prior is a real worry.
H47 WAIT 3's are still a MC event for the shoe which has me thinking about betting on B but three things stop me from making the bet...I never like to make my first bet after two successive losses on a MC event...also there have been no 3+'s on the P side so I really don't have an indication from P history and still those 7B's still have me thinking. (I know the odds say that there will be another reasonable run of 4+ before the end of the shoe.)
H48 WAIT This is a typical S40 bet on P that I would consider if I had already been betting S40 before the 3iar, but there is not a strong S40 Bias so I wait one more hand
H49 WAIT...History P17111132...Your guess is as good as mine
H50 WAIT see above
H51 Bet 1P WIN +13 ...With a P322 I am tempted with OT but I like recent history to back me up with OT decisions and the prior zz events rule out OT. This is still a Repeat shoe so I would make the repeat bet.
H52 Bet 1P WIN +14 I was still torn two ways here because of the only 3iar on the P side but that previous 7iar sways me towards a run continuing to 4+ before shoe end
H53 Bet 1P WIN +15 Repeat bet
H54 Bet 1P LOSE +14 Repeat bet
H55 Bet B1 LOSE +13 Repeat bet
H56 Bet P1 WIN +14 Even though I lost the previous 2 bets, I have my SS indication back and after all...this is a repeat shoe.
H57 Bet 1P WIN +15 SS
H58 Bet 1P LOSE +14 SS
H59 Bet 1P WIN +15 SS
H60 Bet 1P WIN +16 SS
H61 Bet 1P LOSE +15 SS
H62 Bet 1P LOSE +14 SS
H63 Bet 1B WIN +15 Repeat This is still a "Repeat" shoe and I would risk one more bet at this stage. If it lost...I'd take the money and run
H64 Bet 1B WIN +16 Repeat bet
H65 Bet 1B LOSE +15 Repeat bet Lose the next bet at this stage and it's time to get the hell out of Dodge.
H66 Bet 1P WIN +16 Repeat bet
H67 Bet 1P WIN +17 Repeat bet
OK +17 (give or take) flatbetting is not so bad in a shoe with no obvious S40 or OTB4L Bias.
I can't guarantee that this is exactly how I would have played this shoe, but it is more than likely the way I should have played.
I've probably made a few mistakes, but no matter...I just wanted you to understand my thought processes and maybe they might point you in the right direction.
Remembering that I am still an apprentice at this game myself. (I suspect that my current Mentor would have eaten this shoe for breakfast)
And please...no questions...I'm old and thinking makes my head hurt.
Just as a matter of interest...
Flat Betting = +17 units ...PA = 139%
Conservative 1 2 Loop = +26 units ...PA = 141%
U1D2 Neg Prog = +26 units ...PA = 142%
But if you wanna make some really big money?...the 6 7 8 progression wins you +116 units...NOT BLOODY BAD eh?...Oh WAIT...I forgot that you have to divide by your lowest unit amount...Hmm...116 divided by 6 = +19 (REAL) units with a PA of 141%...BUGGER...You can't help bad luck...eh?
Always remembering that this shoe played as I played it was perfect for any form of negative progression because the longest losing sequence was 2. Given that there is sweet stuff all difference in the PA of NP's ...Flatbetting and the 1 2 LOOP when this shoe soesn't get close to the limits of a NP...Tell me again why NP's are th go.
If anyone is at all interested in the musings of an old man, perhaps one of the more tech savvy on BTC (are you hearing me Brad?) could transpose this shoe into a more readable format.
OK...I'm outta here...gotta take a handful of headache pills.
Hi Oz.
Thank you for your wonderfully detailed explaination.
There is "truck loads",..Ozzie slang to mean.."tons",..further broken down to mean.."a very lot" of information to study here.
I am sure that I can say on behalf of everyone following this thread that we cannot thank you enough for this absolutely fantastic material.
To help present the shoe result out comes in "one place", I am placing what I feel will help people do this below. Cheers!
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Hello everyone and hey XDotNet, good post and absolute FANTASTIC infographic!
I loved reading it. I think it should help anyone understand how and why "incorrect" decisions occur.
The tricky and difficult part is to "apply it correctly"..AND all of the time...ha.ha..(as you pointed out)
As "mere humans" we just naturally have a tendency to just fuck things up. Some "humans" have a tendency to fuck things up very successfully.
At the baccarat tables, our job is NOT to "screw up" (enough of the f.... word).
How do we do that. We LEARN. How do we learn correctly. We learn from "History" and by "Experience".
Remember the quote: "Those who are not willing to learn from the mistakes of the past, are destined to repeat them".
Do I have all the answers, hell no! (see, "hell" word now..not the f....word) Am I in search of a few "relevant and correct answers" that will help my game..fuck yes. (oops!)
I\we are all fortunate enough to be a part of this B.T.C. Baccarat community.
We REALLY are fortunate enough to be given the opportunity of learning from some of the best players in the world on here who thankfully are willing to "share" with us humble "mere humans" what they have learned from their own extensive study and experience gained from years of playing Baccarat.
The truly great pro. baccarat players become "that good" because of their ability to NEVER stop learning and APPLYING correctly what they obtain from studying the "History" of the game. This very importantly includes a "Historic review" of their own actual results. After countless months and years of doing this AND actual Casino play they develop the EXPERIENCE by which they are able to successfully arrive at their OWN correct conclusions which they then insert into their OWN way of play.
This is kind of why you just cannot ask these guys questions like: "can you please tell me your system and what are the rules?, and p.s. please provide your answer in (for example) "x pages" or less.". The thing is, there is NO simple "x..pages or less." answer that can be given to questions like this (except a "suitably rude" one) because there is NO one SINGLE SYSTEM that can be played against ALL shoes ALL the time that WILL actually WIN in the long term. It just AIN'T going to happen!
After learning the "basics" of how to correctly play S40, OTB4L, F, (and knowing that you are able to play them in various "Modes") then learning to be aware of any "SS"(Single Side) bias or dominance of: PvB, Op.v.Rpts, Otb4l.v.Tbl events occurring as the shoe is played (and also being aware of MDB+ scenarios) the "ART" is then being able to "correctly put it all together" to arrive at YOUR next bet placement decision (and how much to bet on it). "If" you are not sure whether to make the next bet or not, then "Wait it Out" and DO NOT place a bet.
Its about effective "Short Term Bias" identification AND then combining that, with what the shoe has "thus far" produced (Shoe "History") That, in my humble opinion, is what "Follow the Shoe" means and IS all about.
To me, provided the bastards don't cheat you, it doesn't matter what type of card prep. the casino decides to use before they put the cards into their shoes, pre-shuffled, hand shuffled, machine shuffled etc. (way2fast has commented previously that he was able to "beat" different shuffle types using MDB+, despite it being "designed" to be played on "pre-shuffled" cards)
So, in summary, UNLESS you CAN correctly identify that "tree in the forest" that meets YOUR specific requirements - DON'T even think about starting the Chain Saw!
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Hello all. I am having a great "chuckle" (laugh here) with the comments made from the pros about 345 & 678.
But, wait theres more !
"Don't forget to ONLY step up into betting the 345 (or the 678) after you are ahead in the shoe AND you are winning the majority of your 1st bets of your (neg.) progressions AND always quit at +5 with a Stop of -8 or -10 depending on your risk tolerance and thats it. Thats your million dollar system!"
Sorry, guys...could'nt help myself.... a good laugh is what we all need at times !
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One of the hardest things about "Starting Out" is that you get access to all this great stuff on here and the "temptation" is always to want to go and play it too soon after you "think" you have an understanding of it, when in "reality" you should do just the opposite.
You have to "resist this natural temptation" to want to "play it too soon". How do you get to a level of "correct understanding", well you have to study hard and then study some more. I think there is not a single player in this forum who has not been "confused" at some point when trying to get a "handle" on this game.
In fact I think I safely say that the really good/great players are the ones who strive to build on their understanding of the game. By that I mean that you have to constantly "review" your method of play and then ask yourself "could I have done something different here", "would it have been better had I..WAITED that scenario or situation out" ("If in Doubt, Wait it Out"- Norm.)
Clarity and those "ah ha - great" moments will come, but they will only come to YOU provided you put in the necessary time to practice, study and review. There is only one true measure of success in this game and that is your results. If your results show that are losing money, then YOU are doing something "in-correctly", and guess who is the going to "correct" that?
This forum exists for many reasons (right Keith) There are a lot of good people here that can provide you with advise and help answer your questions, but it is up to you to learn from that advise and those answers. You ARE going to have "tough times" when playing this game and your job is to learn how to "manage and navigate" your way through them.
"Stick with it"..don't give up..if you dont understand something WE are here to help you..but in the end, you are the one ultimately responsible for helping youself.
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What a game! What a great bunch of people contributing here! It IS inspiring to be able to learn from the best!
In the end it up to the individual to DO the necessary work and the "hard yards".
A wonderful bit of advise about learning ANYTHING that I heard years ago is: "Don't wish it was easier, wish you were better".
Learn correct Play and correct Money Management and then, as has been said by so many "Greats" (in whatever field of endevour) KEEP working at it!
"The key is not the will to win… everybody can clain to have that. It is the will to prepare to win that is important.” - Bobby Knight (Legendary Basketball Coach)
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Thank you to all who have shared their thoughts (and to Brad of course who started this thread) about “Progressions”, “Money Management” and “Bank Size” relative to the “Unit Size” (ie.RISK) they are willing to “Put Out There” on the Tables when they Bet on: “How the Cards Fall”.
I hope that this has got ALL of us thinking more about the “Downside” risks, MORE than about the “Upside” gains. Professional Players & Investors in the “Money Markets” all know what way2fast is talking about.
Kudos to way2fast for his great relevant reply. It shows the mark of a “Pro.” when you get a quality reply like that where he goes into details about “Managing Risk” via “Max. Units” permitted to be bet vs. “Capital at Hand”. Oz…come on…”Please Don`t be Shy” (mate)….let’s hear some more good “.James.&.Kerry.Packer.”..stories..and then after that, some “Good.Oil” from you on the importance of this “Money. Management” stuff..? (please)
Of course thanks to ALL who reply about here about their bet selection methods, money management and experiences.
This is “great stuff” people, keep the discussion going.
There is NO substitute for experience period! (right Oz.?)
The more “correct” way of doing things that you are able to get exposure to, the more likely you will learn from those experiences.
Oh..and don`t forget to have just a little bit of fun along the way, BUT not at the expense of your Bankroll !
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Hi everyone, great discussion and words of wisdom being shared on this thread, love it!
"How the Cards Fall" will of course make a difference to how much you Win, but also on how much you Lose.
Kudos to you Oz for emphasizing time and time again that it is the "Money Management" side of the game (and the discipline to follow it) that really matters in the long run.
The subject of what "Stop Loss" and "Stop Wins"; ie. playing until a specific Loss or Win Target amount is reached in a shoe, is very important and perhaps should become the beginning of a new "Thread" on it own.
Bankroll Size & "Draw Down" is another suject that particulary interests me. Your long term "survival" in this game is determined not by how many "ups" you have, but how you are able to handle the "downs". You must have a large enough Bankroll to be able to "live through" the enevitable "Draw Downs" that WILL come your way.
Like way2fast said in this thread, he played MDB+ for 1 & 1/2 years and "achieved his goal", but he also says that he "changed" from initially playing the 124 Neg.Prog. to not using it any longer (but he didn't say what he "changed to"..?). The reason for that "change" I suspect is called "Draw Down" AND the ability to recover from it.
So, having said that, could we please have some more discussion, words of wisdom and advise please from say way2fast or Oz. (and any other "long term" survivors...LOL) on what Bankroll Sizing (in "Units") they actually use (relative to the units they play) and the "real life" "Draw Downs" that they have actually experienced (or have made "plans" to experience)?
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Hello everyone,
Re. the "B11252411111(10)1212122414113" in Pando's recent post.
Could someone please explain to me what the "(10)" in the middle there means.? Thanks.
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Green.Button.Pic.2
Here's another picture of that same "Green.Button" on the left hand side of the shoe. (it is from the same.online.casino.as.b4).
Also re. a comment in the previous post that says: ".noticed they brought out new cards (8 new packs, shuffled at the table).", this_online.casino_uses_6.Decks..not..8.
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Greetings all.
A "friend" noticed that in this picture, which the friend says is from an "online.casino.from.costra.rica", that the card holding shoe device has a "Green.Button" on it. The "Green.Button" is clearly visible on the left hand side of it. What was noticed is that sometimes that "Green.Button" is "Pushed". Now, I hope you all are focusing your attention on the "shoe" and not elsewhere.?! Does any one know what that "Green.Button" is..&..more importantly, what it is used for.?
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Seasons Greetings to all.
What about "BetPhoenix". They have a "Live Baccarat Table", 6 Deck Shoe game.
Does anyone have any experience, "good" or "bad" playing there and with deposits &
withdrawals..?
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Hello.
Re. "Online shoes from Asia"
Thank you for the nice "screen shots".
Can you please give the name/link of the online casinos that are shown?
Ty.
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