THANK YOU so much for that wonderful response @Hellboy. in your example his count for his method would have been Banker 5, Player 4 so I thought that was a no bet situation anyway so your suggestion of Banker being a safer bet does make sense. I may hold off on that one either way as I like the concept of staying within the 3 lines as it is so similar to @kachatz1 87% solution. THANKS AGAIN, I am going to watch the second video this evening. YOU ROCK!