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I am a cardcounter with an open mind for change! I recognized the machines here in Europe in which they put the cards back in the machines after every round dealed. They also burn a card every hand before dealing a new round. Some points....

Play 10 min.

Seat base.

Number of players... 4 inclusive dealer.

Strategy.... last card a ten. Betting bigger first base.

What happened?

First hand.....Bet 5...low cards.....got a double versus a 6 . did not double receiving a low card.

lost the hand

Second hand.... Last dealer ten..............Bet 10....won with first card ten.

Third hand.......last card dealer ten.....Bet 20...Won first card ten....making 14 hitting 21.

I left.............Conclusion.

I know 4/5 players inclusive dealer is optimum for blackjack. Now overclumping.

7 players do not work cause overclumping at first base.

Any more thoughts improving what I am doing?

Hit when lows are running.

Stay when highs are running.

thanks

Second hand....

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I am a cardcounter with an open mind for change! I recognized the machines here in Europe in which they put the cards back in the machines after every round dealed. They also burn a card every hand before dealing a new round. Some points....

Play 10 min.

Seat base.

Number of players... 4 inclusive dealer.

Strategy.... last card a ten. Betting bigger first base.

What happened?

First hand.....Bet 5...low cards.....got a double versus a 6 . did not double receiving a low card.

lost the hand

Second hand.... Last dealer ten..............Bet 10....won with first card ten.

Third hand.......last card dealer ten.....Bet 20...Won first card ten....making 14 hitting 21.

I left.............Conclusion.

I know 4/5 players inclusive dealer is optimum for blackjack. Now overclumping.

7 players do not work cause overclumping at first base.

Any more thoughts improving what I am doing?

Hit when lows are running.

Stay when highs are running.

thanks

Second hand....

That's some pretty sharp stuff you are saying. Did you get all that just from this forum?

You are correct right down the line. 4 or 5 players is far better than 6 or 7, just as you say but the fewer the better. Head to head actually is best regardless if you are playing NBJ First Base (as you were) or NBJ Third Base for random or new cards.

Playing head to head actually randomizes the cards and you slowly lose your First Base advantage while gaining on your Third Base advantage.

This is fine for head to head play because you can play either strategy from the same seat and switch from First to Third when it's time to do so.

Our top NBJ player ($3000 a day) does that all the time. I taught him that trick many years ago.

BTW, I take it you are playing European rules wherein the dealer gets har second card after all players have completed their hands. This works out nicely for NBJ First Base because you always know where that last card will fall. Here, we must keep track of the last cards. They could fall anywhere.

BTW #2: They burn a card before every round in an attempt to destroy the NBJ First Base advantage. But, do they let you see the burn card if you ask? If so, this rule actually helps you. Sorry, but I can't stop casinos from buying my manuals. Here, NBJ is required reading for all BJ dealers. And here, they must let you see all burn cards if you ask.

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H Ellis, I know how to count cards, I also know how to observe things, Experiencing and staying open for new things. I have actually great succes in roulette at one of the online casinos at the poker version of roulette. There are two types of "randomness" Mechanical and by algorythm.......................both not randomn. I am not going to tell you here what I am doing cause people read stuff ( the average casino jerk) I can tell you that you can reverse the non randomness of a certain type of algorythem. I am up! I also laugh so hard about the 8 decks games life in a online casino. I am hitting 17 making 20 and 21! OMG!!!! I think one day or the other we should meet in an online casino in which you could teach me NBJ or what the improvements are based up third base and first base, the differences and how and when to play it. It is to early for me now , but I prefer private coaching over manuals.

Please some argurments for my findings, and how I can improve my playing from third base with 7 players at the tables inclusive the dealer. My email is thebarkingstorkonstage11@gmail.com

Your sincerely,

Bull21

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H Ellis, I know how to count cards, I also know how to observe things, Experiencing and staying open for new things. I have actually great succes in roulette at one of the online casinos at the poker version of roulette. There are two types of "randomness" Mechanical and by algorythm.......................both not randomn. I am not going to tell you here what I am doing cause people read stuff ( the average casino jerk) I can tell you that you can reverse the non randomness of a certain type of algorythem. I am up! I also laugh so hard about the 8 decks games life in a online casino. I am hitting 17 making 20 and 21! OMG!!!! I think one day or the other we should meet in an online casino in which you could teach me NBJ or what the improvements are based up third base and first base, the differences and how and when to play it. It is to early for me now , but I prefer private coaching over manuals.

Please some argurments for my findings, and how I can improve my playing from third base with 7 players at the tables inclusive the dealer. My email is thebarkingstorkonstage11@gmail.com

Your sincerely,

Bull21

The bad news is that using card counting in the traditional sense is a sure loser.

But the good news is that you can use your hard earned card counting skills very successfully to screen BJ tables. What you want to play is the LOWEST count tables. THAT is where simple Basic Strategy will enjoy the highest hit rate. Unfortunately counters tend to look for the highest count tables. Those produce the lowest hit rate and are therefore the WORST tables you could play. Try it! You'll soon see. Meanwhile, keep up the good work!

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Hi Ellis,

Always thanks for your answers. I have some questions about the things I see at the online 8 decker I play life at one of the casino's.

Some things I do, and please let me know I am right or not.

I am looking to th last 3 cards.............H-L-H..... I assume low

Looking to the last 3 cards more than 50 percent should be Tens,

If the last one of the 3 cards is a low like T-T-5 I am not assuming the first card is a Ten or A

Seeing something like T-6-7 or T-T-7 I also not bet. It seems the 7 is a changing card but I am not sure why.

Playing mainly with 7 players and first base.

That you say we look at low counts than it is cause we hit our 19 and twneites when hitting 17.

I hit seventeen a lot also 18 when I think the dealers card is a high one and he has a ten up. I do not care about breaking.

Let me know my assumptions and please let me know how I should bet from here. I use 5 dollar as base bet and 25 dollar as bet when I expect ten coming.

4/5 is best but with 7 players it works too cause we win more bets cause we hit more anyway.

Thanks

Bull21

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