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Through the many many hours of study, research and play time I've finally came to the conclusion that the most important part and the key to long term victory is picking the right shoe to fit your personal play style, method, strategy etc.

I love the playing game and understand the math behind the game. I understand that there are "pattern trends" and percentages for those trends.

What I don't understand is knowing what shoe to pick or how to determine if it's going to favor my play style. Some shoes keep doing what they are doing while other shoes balance themselves out. This is very frustrating and is the only concern that I have about following strategies and beating the game.

A recent example... I've waited half way into the shoe... it was choppy, so I jumped on and played the chop. But it quickly turned into an anti-chop shoe all the way until the end. It balanced itself out, but in an unusual half shoe way.

Anyone have any advice or tips that help them determine when/if a shoe is crummy? How long into the shoe is good before betting? I know it's not possible to determine 100% obviously... but any tricks that help reveal something to make a more educated guess? Thanks guys.

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Through the many many hours of study, research and play time I've finally came to the conclusion that the most important part and the key to long term victory is picking the right shoe to fit your personal play style, method, strategy etc.

I love the playing game and understand the math behind the game. I understand that there are "pattern trends" and percentages for those trends.

What I don't understand is knowing what shoe to pick or how to determine if it's going to favor my play style. Some shoes keep doing what they are doing while other shoes balance themselves out. This is very frustrating and is the only concern that I have about following strategies and beating the game.

A recent example... I've waited half way into the shoe... it was choppy, so I jumped on and played the chop. But it quickly turned into an anti-chop shoe all the way until the end. It balanced itself out, but in an unusual half shoe way.

Anyone have any advice or tips that help them determine when/if a shoe is crummy? How long into the shoe is good before betting? I know it's not possible to determine 100% obviously... but any tricks that help reveal something to make a more educated guess? Thanks guys.

I play in online casino. For me, I have no way of checking if it's good for betting. But I love streaks. So I always follow the last decision in betting. If the last decision is banker, then I bet banker. If it's player, then I bet player.

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I play in online casino. For me, I have no way of checking if it's good for betting. But I love streaks. So I always follow the last decision in betting. If the last decision is banker, then I bet banker. If it's player, then I bet player.

Saunders, there is a way of checking what's good. We call the way you are playing betting Repeats. The problem is you will lose to the half of all shoes that favor Opposites. There is no future in that. You need a much better way to play than that. You should join the private forum and learn NOR. That way you have a good chance of beating ALL shoes rather than just half. The way you are playing will cost you a lot more than the private forum.

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Through the many many hours of study, research and play time I've finally came to the conclusion that the most important part and the key to long term victory is picking the right shoe to fit your personal play style, method, strategy etc.

I love the playing game and understand the math behind the game. I understand that there are "pattern trends" and percentages for those trends.

What I don't understand is knowing what shoe to pick or how to determine if it's going to favor my play style. Some shoes keep doing what they are doing while other shoes balance themselves out. This is very frustrating and is the only concern that I have about following strategies and beating the game.

A recent example... I've waited half way into the shoe... it was choppy, so I jumped on and played the chop. But it quickly turned into an anti-chop shoe all the way until the end. It balanced itself out, but in an unusual half shoe way.

Anyone have any advice or tips that help them determine when/if a shoe is crummy? How long into the shoe is good before betting? I know it's not possible to determine 100% obviously... but any tricks that help reveal something to make a more educated guess? Thanks guys.

ztomsk, I apologize that I don't get to the public forum often enough. But your's is a very interesting post. Most players play their whole life W/O ever recognizing the MOST important aspect of winning Baccarat. Finding the right shoe type. But you recognize this already. That tells me you have the makings of a good player. You just need a little guidance.

There are only two ways to win:

1.) Find the table your method beats.

2.) Know multiple methods and select the one that beats the shoe at hand.

The best is a combination of both.

NOR teaches you a systematic way of selecting tables. You want the most biased table you can find. For NOR purposes there are only three biases: Chop, Streak and Neutral.

Then NOR teaches you 3 very simple systems: Chop, Streak and Neutral. One of those 3 beats every shoe ever dealt. Nor teaches you how to select the right system of the 3 for the shoe at hand.

This way you can get your shoe win rate up to 80-90% and average 12 - 16 units overall.

You definitely have talent. NOR will be a piece of cake for you. In your case, the NOR instruction will pay for itself in no time - probably your first day out.

Join the private forum and learn NOR now. Prices for outsiders are going up to $795 very shortly.

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Hey Davis,

I am considering joining the NOR forum. I am just curious how is the information presented. Is it just spread out through the forum or is it all in one place? Does the manual come with the forum purchase? I see $600 for the pricing....

Thanks

P.S. what does NOR stand for?

Hi ztomsk, There is a 10 page manual of sorts on the forum right now under the heading of The NOR Approach by E Clifton Davis. There is also a lengthy NOR Q & A thread and some sample games. You can learn all aspects of NOR from what is already posted.

A hard cover formal manual will soon be completed. All NOR members will have access to it at no further cost. The $600 is the price for non members.

Also non members and members alike can view an outside independent review of a NOR seminar and casino trip, including 6 shoes, by going here:

http://imspirit.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/ellis-nor-seminar-pa-field-trip-ac/

The next NOR seminar and casino trip will be held in Vegas at the Gold Coast on Dec 9, 10, 11.

NOR stands for Neutral, Opposites, Repeats. It divides all shoes into 3 types:

1. Streaky = Repeat favorable

2. Choppy = Opposite favorable

3. Neutral = About equal Opposites and Repeats

An Opposite is when the opposite side wins.

A Repeat is when the same side wins again (repeats).

You are taught how to know which shoe type you are playing right now and you are taught a simple mechanical system for each of the 3 shoe types.

You are taught 3 betting strategies depending on the quality of the shoe at hand but none ever bets more than 5 and our stop loss is always -8. Our ABS (average bet size) is less than 2. You are also taught table selection.

Just be sure when you buy in that you are buying a NOR membership and not only an S40 membership. If you need any further info on pricing email Keith@beatthecasino.com. He is in charge of pricing. I just teach and play. Nothing about NOR is difficult. It's not rocket science and there is nothing subjective about it. The above 6 shoes played consecutively at 4 different tables in 2 different casinos should give you an idea of the effectivness of the NOR Approach. Anybody can get lucky and win 6 shoes in a row. But doing so at a 26% Player Advantage takes a lot more than luck. By comparison, card counters shoot for a 0.5% PA but never seem to make it. To me, that's tip change for the waitress.

ztomsk, if you truly want to learn how to beat casinos, this is the only way. Our members have already tried EVERYTHING else. THEY will tell you that this is the only way and it is not taught anywhere else.

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