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Hi Uncle Ellis,

I came across this forum few days back and am pretty impressed by the content so far and your profound knowledge on Baccarat game. I like your systematic approach (eg NOR) to this game and very much convinced that it will work. Like other Singaporeans in this forum, I am at the verge of signing up as a member.

One thing that lingers in my mind is that, we know for whatever new skills/tactics we learn and try to gain the advantage over casino, somehow the casino will find its way to counter it over time. So the question is, do you foresee NOR approach will be "beaten" one day by the devil?

Rgds,

Raymond

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Hi Uncle Ellis,

I came across this forum few days back and am pretty impressed by the content so far and your profound knowledge on Baccarat game. I like your systematic approach (eg NOR) to this game and very much convinced that it will work. Like other Singaporeans in this forum, I am at the verge of signing up as a member.

One thing that lingers in my mind is that, we know for whatever new skills/tactics we learn and try to gain the advantage over casino, somehow the casino will find its way to counter it over time. So the question is, do you foresee NOR approach will be "beaten" one day by the devil?

Rgds,

Raymond

An excellent and astute question.

By the devil, perhaps.

By casinos, no.

Why? Casinos have been perfecting Baccarat presentation for 25 years and we watched the casino per capita profits go from 3% in the early 90's to 26% today. But they hit 26% several years ago and have remained constant since then. I think they have exhausted all casino strategy.

But recognize that NOR functions based on casino strategy. It uses casino strategy against them. Therefore any possible future casino enhancements will likely also enhance NOR. Does that answer your question?

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Hi Uncle Ellis,

one more question which i believe you have answered it several times in other threads (so pardon me for asking again), you have lots of playing methods available in this forum, is NOR the master collection of all methods in baccarat?

Rgds,

Raymond

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Hi Uncle Ellis,

one more question which i believe you have answered it several times in other threads (so pardon me for asking again), you have lots of playing methods available in this forum, is NOR the master collection of all methods in baccarat?

Rgds,

Raymond

Not exactly. NOR utilizes the 3 best systems for covering chop streak and neutral shoes. That will already get you winning. NORA, when complete, will add SAP and first vs second liner betting to NOR. Right now the guys are learning XDX which is a way of using very simple math to determine which bets in a shoe have an advantage and how much. Both NOR and XDX are based on that same mathematical trick we call SAP. There are several other simple basic systems taught at BTC like RD and net betting for those who want to leave no stone unturned. Every shoe ever dealt has a system that will beat it. But both NOR and XDX, each by themselves, win the lion's share.

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Hi Ellis,

ok i will sign up NOR over the weekend. I am sure I will benefit a lot from those materials but strongly believe the learning will take a huge leap if you make a visit to Asia. Many of us would be excited to play along with you.

Rgds,

Raymond

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Hi Ellis,

ok i will sign up NOR over the weekend. I am sure I will benefit a lot from those materials but strongly believe the learning will take a huge leap if you make a visit to Asia. Many of us would be excited to play along with you.

Rgds,

Raymond

Hi Keith and Ellis,

Just to inform you that I have made the payment for NOR. Please acknowledge receipts and activate the account soon.

Thanks,

Raymond

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to ellis,is xdx available and what is the cost?

I can answer for Ellis.

XDX is certainly available and the cost is ...nothing!

All the rules and sample play are in the thread started by PJ entitled ADVANCED SAP exploits.

You can find that thread under the Universal Baccarat heading.

Of course, you have to be a member.

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to ellis,is xdx available and what is the cost?

Well, at least at the moment, it is included with your NOR membership. But of course you must be a member first. But no, there is no additional charge at the moment. Should there be some additional charge later such as to pay the instructor for continued services, a never ending process, all then current members would be grand fathered and not be charged any additional fee.

Paul, be careful - this thread is on the public forum.

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