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Spent some time at the Rivers Casino and Potowatami in Chicago and Milwaukee this weekend, and played a very simple BS + MM.

Very low fatigue, and very simple to play.

Simple, as follows:

BS = BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP...( do this for all 70-80) hands...or, if you want, PBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPB

- Those of you who are really adventuresome might even want to experiment with switching between the two during the shoe...

MM = 1 unit, 2 units, 3 units, 4 units...now start over and repeat for the remainder of the shoe (1,2,3,4. 1,2,3,4. 1,2,3,4. Etc, etc.)

So, example is simple to follow...I will use $25 as unit size this this is very common...of course, if available you can use whatever minimum unit size you have available at your local casino ( pounds, RMB, Baht, Euros, etc.)

Starting beginning of shoe, bet the shoe as follows:









( repeat, repeat, repeat)

------- just keep doing this until you have reached your goal for the shoe ( 1 unit win? 10 unit win? 8 unit stop loss? More? Less? YOU DECIDE)

Some general observations:

I played 4 shoes at Rivers, and 6 shoes at Potowatami like this.

I played 10 shoes total with the following results:

Shoe1- + 17 units ($425, before commission)

Shoe2- + 10 units ( exited after an early BPBP " chop streak"

Shoe3- + 31 units

Shoe4- - 6 units ( just was not working out well, and 2 times I was minus 10 units...decided to cut my losses...)

Shoe5- + 13 units

Shoe6- - 16 units ( way past my bed time...quit the shoe early)

Shoe7- + 23 units

Shoe8- + 42 units ( my best!!)

Shoe9- + 3 units ( after the last shoe, I should have known!)

Shoe10- - 11 units ( time to leave for the airport....)

Generally speaking, I did the same things I always do when playing ( " wait" after losing a few in a row, watch the chip count to decide exit points, sometimes " switched from BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP approach to PBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPB

IMPORTANT : make sure to "switch" if the the shoe is trending "biased" towards Banker ( use PBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPB ), or Player ( use BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP )

And, as Ellis so often condones, make sure your bet size, exit points, etc. are in proportion to you Bankroll and how the shoe is working out...in the above 10 shoes, I only played 2 of them start-to-finish, and even then I found myself sitting out a few hands here and there...

Bet Selection? Pretty easy...virtually " stress less"

Money Management? Just stuck with the 1,2,3,4 units...then repeat, again-and again-and again...

No" rocket science" to this method, and certainly had my share of multiple wins-in-a-row, and same for losses

Try this against some of your shoes you have accumulated at home...you will be surprised how easy it is to apply, and the MM is not a "killer", either...

I still feel NOR is the best approach we have for success, but this idea ( suggested to me by someone who does not play..My Wife!) might be something to place in your bag of tricks!

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Well, maybe at the Rivers Casino it IS random. Dave had that problem with it. Are you betting the 1234 whether you win or lose or just up when you lose?

I experimented with the ZZ pattern back in the '80s. Of course the losing pattern is the opposite ZZ pattern which is as common as patterns get. But if you try switching to the opposite ZZ then you lose to sporadic 1's. I think you are trying to reinvent the wheel here. All of this stuff has been tried and tried and tried again. I think you are far better off to go with biases or go with net betting or both. To win you need a hit rate above 50%. Your's isn't.

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All bets 1,2,3,4 unit sequence, then started over. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Only thing I changed was BPBPBPBPBP or switch to PBPBPBPB, etc...If B running hard in the shoe, better the B bets be $50 and $100...if P running above norm, try to max out the same,

Really just a version of NOR,,,worked great on Neutral (OT4BL), worked well on Opposites, and so long as I caught the Banker/vs. Player bias, did ok on repeats also!

Ellis, I am not trying to invent/reinvent anything! Just passing along a good experience, something the forum is lacking lately... Dave's a great guy, and likely he's either tossed in the baccarat towel, or he is on to bigger and better adventures... me-thinks it is both, as he is smart enough to recognize that the Baccarat game of chance is mostly just that...

Long live NOR...you are still the King!

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