Casino Sues Palyers and Card shuffling company

[donw]

I thought yo guys might find this interesting

At the Golden Nugget Atlantic City on April 30, bets on a game of mini-baccarat quickly grew from $10 a hand to $5,000 a hand when the 14 players at the table continually saw the same sequence of cards dealt. After 41 consecutive winning hands, players were up a total of $1.5 million, and casino security surrounded the table, convinced of foul play, reported the Associated Press.

The winners were questioned to the point of harassment. Security reportedly woke up one Brooklyn man in the middle of the night, physically restraining him and holding him in his room without food or water for eight hours while they searched his belongings, Finding nothing, they let the man go.

Later, the casino learned the problem was actually with the decks of cards. The Golden Nugget contends the Blue Springs, Missouri-based playing card manufacturer Gemaco Inc. had promised to pre-shuffle the cards. But the cards were unshuffled, and the Golden Nugget dealers put them into play without checking.

The Golden Nugget is suing the card manufacturer, as well as the 14 players, claiming the casino shouldn’t have to pay out their winnings.

The players have hired a lawyer, Benjamin Dash, to defend their right to their winnings. The players—all Chinese, according to the Kansas City Business Journal—have filed suit against the casino for racial discrimination.

“The Golden Nugget appealed to gamblers to come in and play games licensed and sanctioned by the state of New Jersey,†Dash told the AP. “My clients did exactly that, and then were denied their winnings. There is absolutely no law in New Jersey that would permit the Golden Nugget to declare the game illegal because it failed to provide shuffled cards.â€

The incident isn’t the first case of unshuffled cards in an Atlantic City casino. At the Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort in December, the dealer played unshuffled mini-baccarat cards for 3.5 hours before noticing something was off, resulting in a $91,000 fine against the casino. The Taj Mahal fired nine employees involved.

[Guest]

This is an easy one for Dash. He wins hands down if the court is straight. As far as Gemaco is concerned, I see them as maybe partially liable.

But here is my concern: Casino Control commissions always required casinos to prove that all the cards were there and correct with no extra cards. I have always questioned the recent opinions to push this responsibility off on the manufacturers:

How can we trust them to count the cards when we can't even trust them to shuffle???

But I believe the casino and their employees have nearly full liability here if not total liability. They are suing others for their own mistake. I think any straight court would agree. Any liability assigned to the players would speak ill of the court.

[donw]

Here is an update on this article the part at the bottom is funny

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — At first, it seemed like a coincidence, the kind of thing that happens from time to time at a casino, where the same number or same sequence of cards happens twice in a row.

But when the players at an April game of mini-baccarat at the Golden Nugget Atlantic City kept seeing the same sequence of cards dealt, over and over and over again, their eyes grew wide and their bets grew bigger, zooming from $10 a hand to $5,000.

Forty-one consecutive winning hands later, the 14 players had racked up more than $1.5 million in winnings - surrounded by casino security convinced they had cheated but unable to prove how.

In a lawsuit against a Kansas City playing card manufacturer, the Golden Nugget contends the cards were unshuffled, despite being promised to be pre-shuffled and ready to use.

The April 30 incident was the latest instance of unshuffled cards causing big headaches for an Atlantic City casino. In December, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort used unshuffled mini-baccarat cards for 3 1/2 hours before realizing something was wrong. That episode led to a $91,000 fine against the casino, which fired nine people it said were involved.

It is so basic to the concept of gambling that it often goes without saying: the cards in the deck need to be shuffled before anyone uses them. But in the case of the Golden Nugget, the gamblers did nothing wrong, and deserve to be paid the nearly $1 million they still have coming to them, according to their lawyer, Benjamin Dash.

"The Golden Nugget appealed to gamblers to come in and play games licensed and sanctioned by the state of New Jersey," he said. "My clients did exactly that, and then were denied their winnings. There is absolutely no law in New Jersey that would permit the Golden Nugget to declare the game illegal because it failed to provide shuffled cards."

But in a lawsuit filed against the 14 gamblers in July, that is exactly what the casino seeks, citing state gambling regulations requiring all casino games to offer fair odds - to both sides. The casino's lawsuit asserts the gamblers and the casino both began the game believing it was legal and proper - until the players kept winning over and over again.

The Golden Nugget said it flooded the area with floor persons, managers, supervisors, surveillance and security officers, believing they were watching "a sophisticated swindling and cheating scheme" in progress.

Most of the players at the table were asian and speaking in a foreign language which confused security even more. They thought the players were doing something, but it was only their unshuffled cards.

[Guest]

Nevertheless, my opinion on the matter stands. The casino screwed up - not the first time. But casinos have the money to influence courts. Ha, much the same as buying the Presidency - a situation we are all witnessing. Courts are for sale. The US is for sale. I'm glad I won't be around.

Romney, you've got to be kidding me. The guy reverses his position or outright lies every single time he opens hid mouth. Is that who you want to be representing us to the whole world?

Here is an update on this article the part at the bottom is funny

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — At first, it seemed like a coincidence, the kind of thing that happens from time to time at a casino, where the same number or same sequence of cards happens twice in a row.

But when the players at an April game of mini-baccarat at the Golden Nugget Atlantic City kept seeing the same sequence of cards dealt, over and over and over again, their eyes grew wide and their bets grew bigger, zooming from $10 a hand to $5,000.

Forty-one consecutive winning hands later, the 14 players had racked up more than $1.5 million in winnings - surrounded by casino security convinced they had cheated but unable to prove how.

In a lawsuit against a Kansas City playing card manufacturer, the Golden Nugget contends the cards were unshuffled, despite being promised to be pre-shuffled and ready to use.

The April 30 incident was the latest instance of unshuffled cards causing big headaches for an Atlantic City casino. In December, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort used unshuffled mini-baccarat cards for 3 1/2 hours before realizing something was wrong. That episode led to a $91,000 fine against the casino, which fired nine people it said were involved.

It is so basic to the concept of gambling that it often goes without saying: the cards in the deck need to be shuffled before anyone uses them. But in the case of the Golden Nugget, the gamblers did nothing wrong, and deserve to be paid the nearly $1 million they still have coming to them, according to their lawyer, Benjamin Dash.

"The Golden Nugget appealed to gamblers to come in and play games licensed and sanctioned by the state of New Jersey," he said. "My clients did exactly that, and then were denied their winnings. There is absolutely no law in New Jersey that would permit the Golden Nugget to declare the game illegal because it failed to provide shuffled cards."

But in a lawsuit filed against the 14 gamblers in July, that is exactly what the casino seeks, citing state gambling regulations requiring all casino games to offer fair odds - to both sides. The casino's lawsuit asserts the gamblers and the casino both began the game believing it was legal and proper - until the players kept winning over and over again.

The Golden Nugget said it flooded the area with floor persons, managers, supervisors, surveillance and security officers, believing they were watching "a sophisticated swindling and cheating scheme" in progress.

Most of the players at the table were asian and speaking in a foreign language which confused security even more. They thought the players were doing something, but it was only their unshuffled cards.

Edited September 1, 2012 by Guest

[donw]

he is better than Obama the Man the past four years has made our country worst not better

Im not a poiltics kind of guy just saying my opinion

[Guest]

he is better than Obama the Man the past four years has made our country worst not better

Im not a poiltics kind of guy just saying my opinion

Hi Don! I AM politics oriented and I think you are being conned by the wrong TV channel. Try MSNBC and get some facts. In spite of the Republican spin on everything, Bush caused a world wide recession and record unemployment in the US. Obama first immediately stopped the job loss bloodshed and has had constant job growth ever since. The jobs chart shows a giant V with the bottom of the V at Obama's inception. That in spite of the fact of major govt employment reduction greatly reducing the size of govt under Obama. Plus far more people have health insurance under Obama. When they don't, WE are paying their way.

Romney is a corporate raider and has been caught lieing or changing his stripes at every turn. He CAN't show his tax returns because he is a professional tax dodger. There is no other reason for offshore accounts. He wants to hire the Bush people back and continue the Bush legacy. He is an international embarrassment everywhere with no concept of foreign affairs. Corporate raiding is not business experience. It is anti business experience. No one who isn't a white multimillionaire has any business voting Republican in this election. So, are you a multimillionaire at this point? Then vote for Romney.

President of the US is a responsible job. It is Romney who has never experienced working for a living like the rest of us.

Romney's only achievement ever was health care in Massachusetts and now he turns his back on his only accomplishment ever because his Republican bosses told him to. His only other experience is dog care.

Edited September 2, 2012 by Guest

[donw]

Hi Don! I AM politics oriented and I think you are being conned by the wrong TV channel. Try MSNBC and get some facts. In spite of the Republican spin on everything, Bush caused a world wide recession and record unemployment in the US. Obama first immediately stopped the job loss bloodshed and has had constant job growth ever since. The jobs chart shows a giant V with the bottom of the V at Obama's inception. That in spite of the fact of major govt employment reduction greatly reducing the size of govt under Obama. Plus far more people have health insurance under Obama. When they don't, WE are paying their way.

Romney is a corporate raider and has been caught lieing or changing his stripes at every turn. He CAN't show his tax returns because he is a professional tax dodger. There is no other reason for offshore accounts. He wants to hire the Bush people back and continue the Bush legacy. He is an international embarrassment everywhere with no concept of foreign affairs. Corporate raiding is not business experience. It is anti business experience. No one who isn't a white multimillionaire has any business voting Republican in this election. So, are you a multimillionaire at this point? Then vote for Romney.

President of the US is a responsible job. It is Romney who has never experienced working for a living like the rest of us.

Romney's only achievement ever was health care in Massachusetts and now he turns his back on his only accomplishment ever because his Republican bosses told him to. His only other experience is dog care.

Hey hope everything is well

I dont really watch the news because it always sad and they are not neutral Cnn Democrat Msnbc Democrat bloomburg Democrat foxnews Republican

it would be nice to watch a news channel that was neutral anyway I just looked at he country how it was in the past when carter left office we had 18% interest rates Reagan came in rates dropped economy improved and nobody ****ed with us military wise we felt safe bush came in did not do too good Clinton came in did a pretty good job bush came in not to good Obama is just not a good leader I feel he does not have our best interest all he cares is about himself and not our country he taxing us if we dont have health insurance with this guy you would have to wait for toilet paper in line soon just like Russia he just needs to go his record in the past 3,5 years is shit people can get welfare easier and stay on it without too may questions Romney can do no worst he had more democrats in office when he was Governor and he turned the economy around lets give him a chance can he screw it up more than Obama van he make more than 8.5% unemployment I Dont think so and he has more experience

[Guest]

Hey hope everything is well

I dont really watch the news because it always sad and they are not neutral Cnn Democrat Msnbc Democrat bloomburg Democrat foxnews Republican

it would be nice to watch a news channel that was neutral anyway I just looked at he country how it was in the past when carter left office we had 18% interest rates Reagan came in rates dropped economy improved and nobody ****ed with us military wise we felt safe bush came in did not do too good Clinton came in did a pretty good job bush came in not to good Obama is just not a good leader I feel he does not have our best interest all he cares is about himself and not our country he taxing us if we dont have health insurance with this guy you would have to wait for toilet paper in line soon just like Russia he just needs to go his record in the past 3,5 years is shit people can get welfare easier and stay on it without too may questions Romney can do no worst he had more democrats in office when he was Governor and he turned the economy around lets give him a chance can he screw it up more than Obama van he make more than 8.5% unemployment I Dont think so and he has more experience

Everything is NOT well!

The news IS depressing. And Reagan WAS a good President and Clinton balanced the budget. But the world wide damage caused by Bush was too great to correct in one term. Starting two wars with the wrong countries and handing billions of our tax dollars to the Iraqies, letting Wall Street and the banks gamble our tax dollars away and resupplying them with more tax dollars.

Sure, Reagan was great but he couldn't even get nominated today. The current Republican leadership, if you could call it that, is against everything Reagan stood for. They are bought and paid for by Adelson and the other billionaires. Those are their real constituants, not the citizens, not us. Romney is pure and simple, their puppet and very obviously so. The Republican Supreme Court assured that. The Presidency is for sale to the highest bidder. Adelson will be President of the US. One giant casino.

Nothing personal. Just stating the facts as they stand.

Edited September 3, 2012 by Guest