kingkong Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 P 213113113131111311121221312111154222111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r22flyfly Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 P 213113113131111311121221312111154222111I'm learning NOR+ as well. Threes interlaced with ones are a challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users bluetri Posted March 25, 2013 Users Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Threes interlaced with ones are a perfect F shoe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users aaroneze Posted April 6, 2013 Users Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 Hey guys, I just got back from a cardroom here in California called Casino 580.. Well I had a pretty hard lost tonight and was wondering what would you guys do with these shoes... the first shoe I ended up losing pretty bad. 2nd shoe I got +30. 3rd shoe I ended up with +5 only.. Shoe 4 was also another disaster of me ending up at -7 units... and then Shoe 5 was another -8. I think it's back to the drawing boards for me. I was confident in playing but I think I might have the systems messed up or confused. Any help would be great...Thanks!P64311132322222211222421P1313182213517p12121552331111212212231111211131P1222141411113P271121211113 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) Well first, tell me about the cards:Califormia I would expect preshuffled.Do the cards originally come to the table in an 8 deck bundle or 8 individual decks? Do you know?Are you allowed to touch the cards?Is it new cards every shoe? Or do they use the same cards all day?Does somebody cut the cards before every shoe or no?These games seem very strange to me. what with long ST, ZZ, and TT runs mixed together.I probably would not go back to that casino, Do you have any other choice?You would probably be better off playing on line. Have you tried that?I suspect everybody at the card room had a rough night. Right?Except for the TT runs, these look like TB4L shoes from yesteryear at first glance. But you can't play TB4L with TT runs.BTW, the first shoe played straight NOR OTB4L M3 with an U1D1 M2 prog scores +43.You would have needed a 15 unit buy in but we usually buy in for 20 units with that prog. Your highest bet is 6. I started U1D1M2 after play 3. I probably would have gone home after that to avoid getting barred.The 2nd much shorter shoe played the same way, except that the 8iar throws you into Mode 2 for ST runs, scores +16, down from +18, trying to make +20.Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire ! Edited April 6, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Users aaroneze Posted April 6, 2013 Users Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) Well first, tell me about the cards:Califormia I would expect preshuffled.Do the cards originally come to the table in an 8 deck bundle or 8 individual decks? Do you know?Are you allowed to touch the cards?Is it new cards every shoe? Or do they use the same cards all day?Does somebody cut the cards before every shoe or no?These games seem very strange to me. what with long ST, ZZ, and TT runs mixed together.I probably would not go back to that casino, Do you have any other choice?You would probably be better off playing on line. Have you tried that?I suspect everybody at the card room had a rough night. Right?Except for the TT runs, these look like TB4L shoes from yesteryear at first glance. But you can't play TB4L with TT runs.BTW, the first shoe played straight NOR OTB4L M3 with an U1D1 M2 prog scores +43.You would have needed a 15 unit buy in but we usually buy in for 20 units with that prog. Your highest bet is 6. I started U1D1M2 after play 3. I probably would have gone home after that to avoid getting barred.The 2nd much shorter shoe played the same way, except that the 8iar throws you into Mode 2 for ST runs, scores +16, down from +18, trying to make +20.Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire !Hi Ellis, thanks for the quick reply. The table had a black box with 8 cards in them already. We are not allowed to touch the cards at any time. It looks like its the same cards... the dealer seems to just ask someone to cut and they just keep rolling. And yes they do allow a person to cut the cards before every shoe. The reason why I played at this particular cardroom called Casino 580 was because they had 4 bac tables with no fees what so ever, and it being only 30 minutes away from my house. Another casino is about 1 hour away from me with 3 baccarat tables... and another is called San Pablo, which is 20 minutes away with only 1 bac table... So I'm pretty low on choices around here! Are there any websites that you would recommend? The reason why the shoe was short, was because I didn't write down the whole shoe...which I'm assuming was a mistake on my part. Next time I go, I will copy the whole shoe before entering it.So I went back to get the WHOLE shoe and this is the results of the 2 shoes I did play...shoe 1P323112181132121216451311521Realized if I had stuck with F I could have won, but didn't really understand which mode to stay in....shoe 2P11511224321121121411112(11)1the (11) is 11x bankerI played this shoe with F3 since there was so many 2s... Thanks! Edited April 7, 2013 by aaroneze More shoes from the casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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