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[lawrence]

Hey...Just wondering if anyone has any info on this Youtube video. This guy reckons he has beaten the game...I know...another one. I inquired into the baccarat system he is plugging and received info from him that the system is worth up to $30000 private lessons and can go as low as $7500 for skype lessons. My question anyway is...does anyone know anyone that has gone and bought this? If so what did they think of it. I wont be buying it...to rich for me. Besides I always say...if you have something that works "Why sell it"? he talks about a staking plan that is familiar to me (and you I would think). You start with $60 and work your way down one unit of $10 (down to $20) and one up on a loss(up to max $100) eg: 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100. I think he is playing both sides. I tried it and made a few bucks, but he must have some other filters involved. Maybe we can put our heads together and figure out a method of play.

Look forward to your response. The link below will take you to the video for those that are interested.

[kachatz1]

Hey...Just wondering if anyone has any info on this Youtube video. This guy reckons he has beaten the game...I know...another one. I inquired into the baccarat system he is plugging and received info from him that the system is worth up to $30000 private lessons and can go as low as $7500 for skype lessons. My question anyway is...does anyone know anyone that has gone and bought this? If so what did they think of it. I wont be buying it...to rich for me. Besides I always say...if you have something that works "Why sell it"? he talks about a staking plan that is familiar to me (and you I would think). You start with $60 and work your way down one unit of $10 (down to $20) and one up on a loss(up to max $100) eg: 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100. I think he is playing both sides. I tried it and made a few bucks, but he must have some other filters involved. Maybe we can put our heads together and figure out a method of play.

Look forward to your response. The link below will take you to the video for those that are interested.

Lawrence-

Fuggedaboutit...

Met him and what you saw on the video IS NOT WHAT HE Is NOW TEACHING....not even close.

This is the BTC NOR forum, right?

...you learn how to play NOR+ and you won't be need any other "angle" to approach the game...

Good Luck!

[Guest]

Ha, these guys keep coming out of the woodwork! That's the internet for ya.

First, you must be 21+ to play Bac in a casino and this guy appears to have barely made it. What casino experience could he possibly have.

Playing both sides demonstrates a total lack of expeience and a total lack of simple math. It is an extremely stupid thing to do. He likely never heard of net betting which accomplishes the exact same thing while betting only half as much money.

Not Staking lines nor any other betting strategy beat Baccarat. Players have been proving that for 400 years. Simple math also proves it.

I've been watching these guys come out of the woodwork for 30 years. None of them have ever amounted to a hill of beans and several are being or have been sued. Several others are in hiding.

Members here, who have tried everything else, will tell you flat out that this site, BTC, is by far the best place in the world to learn Baccarat. Many win their tuition back their first day out, some, their first shoe. Many have watched me play and many have played right along with me. I know most of the top players but I've never seen this guy in a casino. Has anybody?

[Guest]

So OK, I watched the video. Like I said it is just a betting scheme and ALL betting schemes are break even but then you owe commission.

But, you say, he's got a partner!

That won't help because the losing partner is losing faster than the winning partner is winning.

Let's say a shoe starts with 5 banks: The Bank partner wins $200 less $10 commission = $180 won for the team.

But the Player partner loses $400. So, OK, together they won half the bets which satisfies the eventual game odds.

BUT, the team is $220 down after winning half the bets. They are 22 $10 wins down. Forget it! They can never make that up with $10 wins every other play. They probably figured that out their first day in a real casino.

It is no wonder they teach a whole different method now. I've seen this same betting scheme several times before. It is the kind of thing somebody thinks up their first day of Baccarat.

There are TWO components to every Bac system: a betting strategy and a placement strategy. These guys don't even have a system. They are trying to sell you half of a system for a whole lot of money that has no chance of winning long term.

[kachatz1]

Ha, these guys keep coming out of the woodwork! That's the internet for ya.

First, you must be 21+ to play Bac in a casino and this guy appears to have barely made it. What casino experience could he possibly have.

Playing both sides demonstrates a total lack of expeience and a total lack of simple math. It is an extremely stupid thing to do. He likely never heard of net betting which accomplishes the exact same thing while betting only half as much money.

Not Staking lines nor any other betting strategy beat Baccarat. Players have been proving that for 400 years. Simple math also proves it.

I've been watching these guys come out of the woodwork for 30 years. None of them have ever amounted to a hill of beans and several are being or have been sued. Several others are in hiding.

Members here, who have tried everything else, will tell you flat out that this site, BTC, is by far the best place in the world to learn Baccarat. Many win their tuition back their first day out, some, their first shoe. Many have watched me play and many have played right along with me. I know most of the top players but I've never seen this guy in a casino. Has anybody?

YES, I have seen and played with him at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut. Even met Mom, Dad, and his brother as well....all of whom seem to be nice enough folks...

His name is David Gunas, Jr. , and if you go to Mohegan often, you will see him there all the time...looks just like he did in the U-tubers...

Before demonstrating his BAC prowess, he competed in Golf and came to be known as TheBarefootGolfer.

Claims to have won 38 professional tournaments and achieved 12 holes-in-one in his lifetime ( google the odds on that!!)

ImSpirit tried to " get inside" and get Dave to reveal his " system"... You can read Im's commentary, blog, and other various responses thereto...I'll let you draw your own conclusions...

Dave' s methods have nothing to do with the up$10 bucks/down $ 10 bucks Utube videos...rather, they are based on an approach which uses multiple tracking systems to identify a " net bet"...anyone who thinks NOR is complicated would be best served by sticking to Sudoku or The Daily WordJumble published in most major newspapers every day. Just IMO.

Or, since he is an accomplished Barefoot Golfer,perhaps try Bareback Riding before contemplating a visit with him. But hey, I think they even made a movie about that as well, didn't they?

[Guest]

YES, I have seen and played with him at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut. Even met Mom, Dad, and his brother as well....all of whom seem to be nice enough folks...

His name is David Gunas, Jr. , and if you go to Mohegan often, you will see him there all the time...looks just like he did in the U-tubers...

Before demonstrating his BAC prowess, he competed in Golf and came to be known as TheBarefootGolfer.

Claims to have won 38 professional tournaments and achieved 12 holes-in-one in his lifetime ( google the odds on that!!)

ImSpirit tried to " get inside" and get Dave to reveal his " system"... You can read Im's commentary, blog, and other various responses thereto...I'll let you draw your own conclusions...

Dave' s methods have nothing to do with the up$10 bucks/down $ 10 bucks Utube videos...rather, they are based on an approach which uses multiple tracking systems to identify a " net bet"...anyone who thinks NOR is complicated would be best served by sticking to Sudoku or The Daily WordJumble published in most major newspapers every day. Just IMO.

Or, since he is an accomplished Barefoot Golfer,perhaps try Bareback Riding before contemplating a visit with him. But hey, I think they even made a movie about that as well, didn't they?

Well, OK. I was just going by what he presented in his film wherein he claims that you do not need a bet placement strategy since everything is 50/50. Only an amateur would make such a claim as many have on the internet. And only an amateur would claim that there is any way a partner or partners can help you. That just ain't so as he will soon find out if he hasn't already. But what he says would sound great to anyone who has no knowledge of the game whatsoever. The example that I used is accurate to his film and already disproves his claims. So the fact that he has now gone to something entirely different is not at all surprising. Not to me.

[lawrence]

Yeah...I'm always on the look out for a good strategy, but I'm allot more couscous these day's about these people peddling these so called "unbeatable" systems. Just want to askalso...How much is the NOR+ system. I see allot of blackjack stuff for sale, but not sure where the baccarat system for sale is. Thanks.

[Guest]

Yeah...I'm always on the look out for a good strategy, but I'm allot more couscous these day's about these people peddling these so called "unbeatable" systems. Just want to askalso...How much is the NOR+ system. I see allot of blackjack stuff for sale, but not sure where the baccarat system for sale is. Thanks.

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