# NOR Net Betting Question

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Hi Ellis, Keith, and the rest. I was watching the NOR video last night on Youtube and have a question after noticing something. I know that net betting is one of the biggest components with Ellis' approach to baccarat. As I was watching Ellis fill in his scorecard play by play, I noticed some of the progressions on either side were going 1-2-3, 1-2, some stayed at 1 for a play or two, and so on.

My question is this: Does NOR have the net betting built in to these progressions? Or is there any figuring out the difference between whether Player of Banker just won the last play, and then doing any math, i.e. subtracting a player progression from and banker progression and betting the difference? Or is the net betting pretty much "automatic" with the prescribed betting progressions and it figures it out for itself?

I hope this makes sense. Let me know if it doesn't.

Peace and health to all. Shannon

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Hi Ellis, Keith, and the rest. I was watching the NOR video last night on Youtube and have a question after noticing something. I know that net betting is one of the biggest components with Ellis' approach to baccarat. As I was watching Ellis fill in his scorecard play by play, I noticed some of the progressions on either side were going 1-2-3, 1-2, some stayed at 1 for a play or two, and so on.

My question is this: Does NOR have the net betting built in to these progressions? Or is there any figuring out the difference between whether Player of Banker just won the last play, and then doing any math, i.e. subtracting a player progression from and banker progression and betting the difference? Or is the net betting pretty much "automatic" with the prescribed betting progressions and it figures it out for itself?

I hope this makes sense. Let me know if it doesn't.

Peace and health to all. Shannon

Net Betting is a great invention of mine and that is what is used in the free systems. But net betting depends on one component of the game running relatively equal. It can be Bank vs Player, Opposites vs Repeats, or TBL vs OTB4L. Usually we have an equlity in a shoe, one or the other or the other - but not always.

NOR, on the other hand, covers the full spectrum of possible shoes. Instead of functioning on equality, it functions or inequality which occurs in EVERY shoe - one way or another.

If opposites are running close to repeats (an OR count hovering 0) we play OTB4L which loves that situation. But casinos ALSO love that situation because that is the shoe type they win the most because nobody knows how to beat them but us. So we are playing in tune with the shoe type the casino is striving to present with their card preps, their shuffles, their shuffle machine settings, and even their preshuffled cards. In such a situation, net betting is not needed. The NOR+ U1D2 betting method wins considerably more in that same situation.

But when the game tilts toward Streak or Strong Side, NOR has that possibility well covered with System F while Net Betting would falter.

Likewise if the game tilts toward chop, NOR has those tables well covered with S40 while again, net betting would falter.

NOR reacts to whatever the casino is trying to present and is like going to war with a full quiver while Net Betting is like going to war with only one arrow - a very sharp arrow indeed but you only get one shot while NOR covers every possibility.

The proof is in the hundreds of shoes members have turned in. I haven't seen a single one that NOR doesn't beat. But I have seen shoes that net betting can't beat because of too much disparity no matter which way you go.

That is why we say NOR is the casino's worst nightmare. It understands and reacts to whatever they are up to. NOR is the best Baccarat approach of all time and always will be. There is simply no way of escaping it. So it pays to learn how to play it correctly.

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