kingkong Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 HI everyone this is what I've play everyday almost same time same table with machine shuffled cardsWhat do u guys think??? IM not really understand 4D but for me i start to bet when one of the the count hit +3 or -3, is that correct?Shoe# 1B22211212124P1231511114P41122343P2112311121Shoe #2B111111125411B523321112P141112212311P211111Shoe #3P1131111343B333112241P2423612B121111131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 HI everyone this is what I've play everyday almost same time same table with machine shuffled cardsWhat do u guys think??? IM not really understand 4D but for me i start to bet when one of the the count hit +3 or -3, is that correct?Shoe# 1B22211212124P1231511114P41122343P2112311121Shoe #2B111111125411B523321112P141112212311P211111Shoe #3P1131111343B333112241P2423612B121111131Wow, these are all extremely good S40 shoes U1D2 or even U1D1.Your first shoe scores +31 played U1D1. All you have to know is go down 2 whenever you win every other bet.Like you win a 4, lose a 3, win a 4: go to 2. You win +31 in spite of the fact that 1's are exactly normal. I didn't go down 2 the first time I hit the every other bet thing but I did thereafter. My worst position was -1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztomsk Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Wow, these are all extremely good S40 shoes U1D2 or even U1D1.Your first shoe scores +31 played U1D1. All you have to know is go down 2 whenever you win every other bet.Like you win a 4, lose a 3, win a 4: go to 2. You win +31 in spite of the fact that 1's are exactly normal. I didn't go down 2 the first time I hit the every other bet thing but I did thereafter. My worst position was -1.This is how I exclusively play now and it has improved my win rate a lot. Most will argue with me but I have a stop loss of 25 playing U1D1 - down 2 every other bet. I've turned many losing -8 shoes into winners. I had to up it... my casino only has a couple tables that are always full. If u get out at -8 u might not a chance to play again - many wasted trips that way. Straight U1D1 was hurting me... But playing down 2 every other bet keeps me in the game for a long time.I still lose sometimes but less often... almost always when a shoe starts one way then changes on a dime... I decide to switch systems... then the shoe changes right back wiping me out. Sucks but it happens. I hear talk about people winning 100 shoes in a row... all I can think is "what the..." Ellis is 4D win rate really in the high 90% range? Should I move to that/add that to my arsenal?Is it difficult to learn? I can play NOR+ backwards in my sleep but don't even know how to net bet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybac Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Ellis, even though this shoe is not from AUS, please play the following "interesting" shoe recently recorded at Fallsview Casino to the present 4D rules.Kindest Regards, JohnB294221B1132111211132B211211412131P1111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkong Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hi thank u Ellis for the commented NOR is a powerful tool but all we need is MODE before i always angry when the shoe change so many time in one shoe. And now i have looked at my previous scorecards i can win lots easy with net betting on PvB….with 3Hi and all thoese rules about keep 5 or keep 3 and stop loss at 8 This is mine HOly grail. i might be hit 100 shoes without loss too if i only want 1-3 unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Ellis, even though this shoe is not from AUS, please play the following "interesting" shoe recently recorded at Fallsview Casino to the present 4D rules.Kindest Regards, JohnB294221B1132111211132B211211412131P1111Hey John, you're the pro. How would YOU play it? Starting with an extremely rare 2,9,4, I would simply play it TB4L mandatory 2 and quit at +20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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