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I've enjoyed watching the different NOR videos available on this site and on youtube.

But I have a few questions and comments on them.

In one video Ellis is taking questions and one of them is: "What game do you prefer, Blackjack or Baccarat?"

Ellis goes to say that to play Blackjack at a high level takes a ton of commitment and you almost have to be insane to atttempt it. But then he says, you can earn better money at Blackjack.

This comment surprised me when in another video he said card counting gives the player 0.5% edge over the house. If you do it correctly, and control your emotions.

Whereas in another video Ellis says he wins every session playing Baccarat. Not every shoe...but every session.

Also, he does 26X better at Baccarat than a professional BJ player!

I am confused...

This is not an attempt to discredit Ellis. He is obviously a very good gambler and is doing his best to make people succeed at BJ and Baccarat. I just found the comments in conflict of one another...

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Hamster,

One hand of BJ heads up on average lasts 30 seconds, you do the math on how many hands per hour.

One shoe of Bac on average 45 min/1hour+ . You do the math on how many you could play in an average session.

Ellis says he wins every session playing Baccarat. Not every shoe...but every session.

Hope this helps you work it out.

Lou.

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I've enjoyed watching the different NOR videos available on this site and on youtube.

But I have a few questions and comments on them.

In one video Ellis is taking questions and one of them is: "What game do you prefer, Blackjack or Baccarat?"

Ellis goes to say that to play Blackjack at a high level takes a ton of commitment and you almost have to be insane to atttempt it. But then he says, you can earn better money at Blackjack.

This comment surprised me when in another video he said card counting gives the player 0.5% edge over the house. If you do it correctly, and control your emotions.

Whereas in another video Ellis says he wins every session playing Baccarat. Not every shoe...but every session.

Also, he does 26X better at Baccarat than a professional BJ player!

I am confused...

This is not an attempt to discredit Ellis. He is obviously a very good gambler and is doing his best to make people succeed at BJ and Baccarat. I just found the comments in conflict of one another...

Hamster, thanks for giving me a little break in my million dollar Bac teaching to talk about my favorite subject.

Lou has the right idea. When I play BJ, I play head to head at lightening speed - maybe 20 hands per minute. Bac is usually closer to a hand every 2 minutes. So for me BJ is about 40 times faster than bac and therefore can make money at a far faster pace.

No, I never said card counting gives you an edge in BJ. What I was saying is the card counting gurus CLAIM a 0.5 % advantage. But that is pure BS. When asked, no card counting guru could produce a single bottom line winner including themselves. To me, that makes card counting in today's BJ game a pure scam. Hell we tip more than 0.5%.

Hamster, I put in 4000 hours of practice before I ever played my first casino BJ game. I'd call that insane, wouldn't you? My wife sure did! Until I started bringing home piles of money. THEN she started kicking me out of the house.

I have challenged and played with the world's top card counters. Watch my lips: They can't play for shit!

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Hamster, thanks for giving me a little break in my million dollar Bac teaching to talk about my favorite subject.

Lou has the right idea. When I play BJ, I play head to head at lightening speed - maybe 20 hands per minute. Bac is usually closer to a hand every 2 minutes. So for me BJ is about 40 times faster than bac and therefore can make money at a far faster pace.

No, I never said card counting gives you an edge in BJ. What I was saying is the card counting gurus CLAIM a 0.5 % advantage. But that is pure BS. When asked, no card counting guru could produce a single bottom line winner including themselves. To me, that makes card counting in today's BJ game a pure scam. Hell we tip more than 0.5%.

Hamster, I put in 4000 hours of practice before I ever played my first casino BJ game. I'd call that insane, wouldn't you? My wife sure did! Until I started bringing home piles of money. THEN she started kicking me out of the house.

I have challenged and played with the world's top card counters. Watch my lips: They can't play for shit!

Thanks for the feedback Ellis!

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Hamster, thanks for giving me a little break in my million dollar Bac teaching to talk about my favorite subject.

Lou has the right idea. When I play BJ, I play head to head at lightening speed - maybe 20 hands per minute. Bac is usually closer to a hand every 2 minutes. So for me BJ is about 40 times faster than bac and therefore can make money at a far faster pace.

No, I never said card counting gives you an edge in BJ. What I was saying is the card counting gurus CLAIM a 0.5 % advantage. But that is pure BS. When asked, no card counting guru could produce a single bottom line winner including themselves. To me, that makes card counting in today's BJ game a pure scam. Hell we tip more than 0.5%.

Hamster, I put in 4000 hours of practice before I ever played my first casino BJ game. I'd call that insane, wouldn't you? My wife sure did! Until I started bringing home piles of money. THEN she started kicking me out of the house.

I have challenged and played with the world's top card counters. Watch my lips: They can't play for shit!

Hi Ellis,

A friend of mine is a pretty big gambler... He has a good paying job so he can afford to bet $500 a hand etc...at BJ. I don't think he wins overall...unless he is with his Engineering friend who says he plays only in Vegas, because they still have a few single or double deck BJ tables.

He claims to be up 620k a yr! Sure bets my lame job /income...

Just saying.

Is this true some casinos haven't switched over to 8 deck shuffle machines yet?

BTW - There are no single or double deck BJ tables or any game here in BC, Canada...

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Hi Ellis,

A friend of mine is a pretty big gambler... He has a good paying job so he can afford to bet $500 a hand etc...at BJ. I don't think he wins overall...unless he is with his Engineering friend who says he plays only in Vegas, because they still have a few single or double deck BJ tables.

He claims to be up 620k a yr! Sure bets my lame job /income...

Just saying.

Is this true some casinos haven't switched over to 8 deck shuffle machines yet?

BTW - There are no single or double deck BJ tables or any game here in BC, Canada...

I only play 8,2 and sometimes 1 deck if no 8 or 2 deck tables are available. I avoid 6 deck. 4 is OK at the few casinos that have 4. 6 deck seems always too casino favorable. They have thay game down pat.

Nearly all casinos have 8 deck shuffle machines for both Bac and BJ. Not sure about BC.

Right, Vegas has 8 6 2 and 1 deck as do most US casinos.

$62,000 or more a year is possible for full time top NBJ players at $25 units. I did that back in the 80s when $25 units were equivalent to $100 units today. So I switched to $100 units simply because the $100 tables have a higher % of good games. $25 tables get too much play.

A top part time player $62,000 sounds a little far fetched. It is hard to get that good playing part time - but not impossible.

Part timers would need to play $100 units or more to achieve $62,000.

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I only play 8,2 and sometimes 1 deck if no 8 or 2 deck tables are available. I avoid 6 deck. 4 is OK at the few casinos that have 4. 6 deck seems always too casino favorable. They have thay game down pat.

Nearly all casinos have 8 deck shuffle machines for both Bac and BJ. Not sure about BC.

Right, Vegas has 8 6 2 and 1 deck as do most US casinos.

$62,000 or more a year is possible for full time top NBJ players at $25 units. I did that back in the 80s when $25 units were equivalent to $100 units today. So I switched to $100 units simply because the $100 tables have a higher % of good games. $25 tables get too much play.

A top part time player $62,000 sounds a little far fetched. It is hard to get that good playing part time - but not impossible.

Part timers would need to play $100 units or more to achieve $62,000.

He is up $620,000...his base bet is $100, but most are 500 to 1000...sometimes higher. But he won't get into specifics how he does it. Although, he will allow you to sit next to him and dupilcate his bets...

I am not smart enough to win at BJ. I will stick with the much slower paced Bac...

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