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Hi,singapore member can i ask at singapore MBS casino use which system?mdb,nor doesn't work well,and who already completed the millions plan,can sharing the experience thank so much!

Well Norm, GRHS, died and Oz seems to be on Sabbatical from the forum at the moment.

I think Singapore has the toughest Bac in the world at the moment. Unlike the US, most Singapore shoes are not biased enough for NOR

according to our Singapore players.

But did you not see the post from your fellow Singapore player about 2 weeks ago who has quickly worked his way up to $1000 units?

He is playing MDB+, adjusting his delays according to the SAP count. He's only averaging 1 or 2 units a shoe but they are $1000 units!

He's only 2 steps away from the home stretch of the million dollar plan.

He's also only playing one casino but I can't remember which one.

I'll find his post and repost it here for you. It seems to me THAT is who you guys want to be talking to.

By his remarks you can tell he is a well studied, accomplished player.

Now, that said, the new manual will contain 2 completely different systems that don't care at all about how biased or how random a shoe is:

X-FTS and Reverse Net Betting are brand new systems. They do not function on either bias or lack of bias like NOR and MDB+ do.

Therefore, changing biases, typical of Singapore, will not bother you at all. They both bet pretty much every hand once started and both are capable of +20. Both will get to 4 unit bets now and then so you want to start out with smaller units.

If you want to play 2Hi or even flat bet I would suggest RSAP:

(Keep a SAP count and bet the lowest count goes up and the highest count goes down,)

For instance. lets say your early SAP counts were 1,2,4,8.

You would want to bet ON 1's and against 4+s.

This means you would bet 1's stay 1 and 3s stay 3.

Which, in turn, means: you would bet an opposite after an opposite

as well as an opposite after a 3iar.

Do you guys see how I got those 2 bets?

You are going to get a LOT more bets than MDB+ offers.

because Opposites occur half the time and ST runs get to 3 a quarter of the time.

So first, flat bet it.

But, if you are winning more than half your bets go to serarate progressions.

One progression bets 1's stay 1. (by betting an opposite will follow an opposite)

The OTHER progression bets 3s stay 3 (bet on Opposite after 3iar).

But recognize your winning bets change the SAP counts. So every time you win a bet SAP,

may very well change what you are betting on. That is as it should be.

Look, DON'T practice in the casino. That is pure dumb.

Practice with your old shoes at home FIRST. Once you are beating those,

THEN you are ready to play that same casino.

Everyone has different Baccarat skill sets. Some can read this post once and know exactly what I'm talking about.

Others may have to keep a copy of this post at their work station so they can refer to it as they practice.

Some can glance at the SAP counts and automatically KNOW their next bet.

Others may need to develop that skill set.

It has NOTHING to do with your IQ. It's more akin to like some people can sing and some can't.

Hmm, I wonder how Einstein would have done trying to sing??? I'm thinking, not so hot!

Einstein could grasp the workings of the universe in his head. But, could he tie his own shoes? Nope.

OK, let me go back and find that post for you guys. How'd you ever miss it?

I'm guessing because it was on the public forum I think.

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From the 6/25/15 Baccarat thread: "Now I want you to take a look at this!"

Hi Ellis,

First, let me send my best wishes to your health and all the best for your recovery.

I am John, just joined MDB in Jan 2015 so was a a complete newbie in terms of baccarat and casino gambling, have fluff around with friends over the years but nothing special.

Thanks to you, Way and the other members, I have learned alot especially MDB+ which is my preferred way of playing, low risk, conservative but consistent high hit rate.

I have been playing daily for the last week and this week at Marina Bay Sands (MBS) Singapore and have won an average of 1-2 units a shoe with no lost progression. This may not seems exciting but I am targeting between 80-100 units a month and hitting the MD of MDB within 24 months at 1-2K unit.

Using a confirm 1st trigger, using SAP to guide in terms of delaying progression and not committing to new progression after hand 50.

Thank you Ellis for helping me source for an additional source of income which may be potentially more than any others I can find.

I am also in for your Bac - Final Word though I am in Singapore so I would send you a USA freight forward address that will send to Singapore.

How could you guys have missed that? Go to the index and hit Baccarat. There it is - an important thread.

But see THAT is the problem with attempting to teach by forum. Members end up wasting their time on all the garbage and totally missing the important posts. I think you are far better off with a hard cover book in your hand with everything you need to know in an organized fashion but nothing you DON'T need to know.

But guys, give me a break. When I tell you flat out to look at something - LOOK at it. Don't ignore me and then complain you don't know what system to play.

I'm not writing for my good. I already know how to play. I'm writing for YOUR good. But it's only good for you if you read it.

You all should have got the notification for that thread in your email box.

If you didn't, it means you are not subscribed. Go to the front page index and check the little green circles. Make sure you are subscribed to ALL Baccarat threads.

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BTW, here is what way2fast had to say about that Singapore post 2 weeks ago:

"Congrats to jw2210 for his success since joining BTC!

Not surprising to hear MDB+ does well in Singapore. Still have yet to find situations where it doesn't find a way to win. Low-risk, conservative and consistent wins -- pretty much says it all.

Anyone can have the same success. You just need the right attitude (willingness to learn); put in the work (practice!); and have the right mentor/teacher (Ellis and BTC)."

Look, way2fast reads ALL the posts and HE is winning solidly.

Maybe you aren't because you don't.

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If you want to play 2Hi or even flat bet I would suggest RSAP:

(Keep a SAP count and bet the lowest count goes up and the highest count goes down,)

For instance. lets say your early SAP counts were 1,2,4,8.

You would want to bet ON 1's and against 4+s.

This means you would bet 1's stay 1 and 3s stay 3.

Which, in turn, means: you would bet an opposite after an opposite

as well as an opposite after a 3iar.

Do you guys see how I got those 2 bets?

You are going to get a LOT more bets than MDB+ offers.

because Opposites occur half the time and ST runs get to 3 a quarter of the time.

So first, flat bet it.

But, if you are winning more than half your bets go to serarate progressions.

One progression bets 1's stay 1. (by betting an opposite will follow an opposite)

The OTHER progression bets 3s stay 3 (bet on Opposite after 3iar).

But recognize your winning bets change the SAP counts. So every time you win a bet SAP,

may very well change what you are betting on. That is as it should be.

Hi Davis, how do you determine when to use RSAP or SAP? Furthermore, is this covered in the Universal 2Hi Netbetting forum? I think this is mentioned that all MDB member have free access to the forum (maybe i am wrong)? I am a MDB member but i cannot have access to that forum.

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